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Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by abandonliberty on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:29PM (#14974750)
Firefox is maybe 80% of the way there. Just like in the IE Anitrust days, firefox suffers from sites that do not design with it in mind.

Still better than Google Creep. Change to a search engine that protects privacy too.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by fencepost on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:00PM (#14975677)
If you think "not designed with Firefox in mind" breaks things, try using uMatrix for a while.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by arca_vorago on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @11:31PM (#14976108)
If people would focus on content in HTML and CSS for layout and newfad devs weren't shoving 50 jscripts a page down our throat this wouldn't be happening as bad. I plan to make all my future sites librejs compatible, and forgoe js altogether whenever possible.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by arkh on Thursday August 10, 2017 @03:51AM (#14977374)
History keeps repeating.

Flash? Now you have heavily javascripted "website".

Table layout? Now you have bootstrap and friends.

Progressive enhancement? Fuck that, we don't have time.

And 5 years from now people will rediscover those and accessibility. Then 5 years later another kind of hell will have appeared to replace this.

The only big change for the current wave is that everything is obfuscated so it's harder for a newcomer to learn by checking how people coded things.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by edgartaor on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:14AM (#14976934)
How this could be done if your backend it's a REST API?
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by yjftsjthsd-h on Thursday August 10, 2017 @07:13AM (#14978489)
You can still render server-side, an with a REST endpoint it should be easy to do so.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by caoilte on Thursday August 10, 2017 @03:58AM (#14977415)
I've been using uMatrix for over three years and very very few websites don't work with it.

By far the most annoying 'feature' (more of a consequence of the internet) is the way that you can't whitelist HTTPS sub-domains. (Makes AWS Console a pain.)

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by fencepost on Thursday August 10, 2017 @10:37AM (#14980119)
Does AWS Console have much that needs blocking? Seems a reasonable place to simply turn off uMatrix. You could also simply use a second browser with uBlock Origin for a limited number of sites - I tend to do that for a lot of checkout /payment options where the repeated reloads of whitelisting in uMatrix could be troublesome.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by timlyo on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:42PM (#14974843)
Can you recommend a search engine? I'm trying DuckDuckGo, but it's just not as good.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by JoshTriplett on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:59PM (#14974956)
> I'm trying DuckDuckGo, but it's just not as good.

It took me a while of using DDG before I realized how much I had equated "good" with "looks like Google".

What finally hit me, hard, was that I switched the DDG theme to a color scheme designed to look like Google search results, and all of a sudden the results "felt better". Markedly better.

So, I started regularly comparing results, every time I found something that I felt I didn't get the results I expected for. I would search, and then search again with !g. And almost every time I ran into something that I didn't like the DDG results for, the Google results weren't actually any better. (The rare times they were, I reported that, and often it got fixed.)

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by weaksauce on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:04PM (#14974983)
!sp will give you the google results without the google tracking as it's a proxy of google results.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by newscracker on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:01AM (#14977804)
I use "!s" in DDG to get to Startpage [1] search results. One letter shorter to access the same - no need to type "!sp" when one can just type "!s" instead. :)

This does not work for replacing "!spi" (image search on Startpage) though. Using "!si" does a search on a non-existent subdomain sportsillustrated.cnn.com.

[1]: https://www.startpage.com

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by unexistance on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:17PM (#14975411)
awesome, DDG rocks

just tried !spi and it works as image search :D

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Semaphor on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:59AM (#14976554)
My problem is not the looks, whenever I use !g I'm annoyed how bad it looks. It IS the results. Often when something doesn't have a ton of relevant results, DDG gives the wrong results while !g has what I'm looking for.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by hrktb on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:20AM (#14977923)
In my experience ddg is less contextual. For instance when searching for something that is trending, Google will often give the most expected results even if the search keywords are incredibly vague, while ddg will give more standard results respecting the keywords.

That’s the very reason I switched to ddg, but it bites me back everytime I try to catch up on stuff everybody already knows for days, and need to fallback to !g.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by ordu on Thursday August 10, 2017 @09:02AM (#14979173)
Are you allow google to store cookies? Maybe its because of personalized search google does?
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Semaphor on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:06PM (#14981055)
Oh, I'm pretty sure that's why. Unless encrypted.google.com doesn't use that information? Anyway, I'd love to have some way to personalize my DDG results and tell them what to boost. Alas.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by ordu on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:14PM (#14981148)
Either "we doesn't gather your personal data" or personalization. These choices are mutually exclusive.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by unexistance on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:19PM (#14975422)
how'd you report to DDG? tried reporting that !gi does not utilizes encrypted.google.com (which I think it should), seems like no dice
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by JoshTriplett on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @10:40PM (#14975867)
I used the "Feedback" mechanism, and typically got a human response by email.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by retox on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:54PM (#14974914)
I always hit DDG first then if the results aren't great just append the Google bang (!g) in the DDG search field to get an unbubbled goog search.

The DDG bang system is one of its best features in my mind. https://duckduckgo.com/bang

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @08:59PM (#14975333)
How often do you end up at Google though; a few years back I tried DDG for a couple of months but ended up basically always doing !g and so went back to Google.

Might be time for another go?

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by retox on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @09:09PM (#14975372)
It depends on what I'm searching for. If its an error code or something a bit esoteric around tech then google usually has better results, but for everyday topics the results are pretty decent, and they feel like they have improved over the years.

I probably do less searching than I used to, but the bang system really helps me search other sites much more effectively. The more common bangs I use are !w for wikipedia, !so for stackoverflow, !imdb, !gh, !tpb, !bm for bing maps, !bi bing images.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Forbo on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @11:50PM (#14976173)
!sp for startpage is really nice to use if you want to have the Google results without the tracking. Edit: looks like this was already mentioned below. Whoops.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by littlestymaar on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:03AM (#14978143)
I don't have any figures to back this up, but I feel like I use !g about half of the time (it may be 70 or 20% as well since I have no data). I'm not free from Google then, but this reduced my dependency by about 50%, which is still good to take !
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Too on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:18AM (#14976954)
For anything tech-related or everyday information DDG provides more reliable results than google because it's less infected by sales and SEO-spammers.

For local businesses and really rare topics Google is better.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Semaphor on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:57AM (#14976545)
I was in the same situation. Switched over again a few months back. I almost always only need to use !g for rare results (and even there it doesn't always help). On the other hand bangs like !mdn (mozilla developer network) and !w (wikipedia) make things much easier.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by pbhjpbhj on Thursday August 10, 2017 @06:13AM (#14978187)
I use Firefox "awesomebar" keywords so "w" for Wikipedia, etc. (I think Chrome has this too), so I don't gain anything really with DDG's keywords on most searches.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by rovr138 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @12:36AM (#14976399)
I use !s. Redirects it to Startpage instead. Google results, but it acts as a proxy.

On the homepage, https://www.startpage.com/, at the bottom it lists the security part a bit more.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by daveFNbuck on Thursday August 10, 2017 @02:23AM (#14976975)
I basically only use Google for movie listings, calculations, and restaurant hours now. The rare times I switch to Google for other searches DDG fails on, Google is no better.
Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by newscracker on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:05AM (#14977833)
I follow a three step model: 1. DDG 2. If that doesn't help, then use !s to search Startpage. 3. If that doesn't help, then use !g to search Google.

Other than the relevance and quality of search results, there are differences in features across these sites, like date range search, for example. Image search also seems to have more flexibility on Google. I haven't checked recently if reverse image search even exists on DDG or Startpage.

Re:uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions by Propen on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:57PM (#14974935)
https://www.startpage.com gives you Google results but proxied.