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Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by Gabriel_Martin on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:16PM (#14973699)
You've avoided any discussion at all with your confusing use of a variable instead of just making a clear statement
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by tptacek on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:19PM (#14973729)
No, his argument is straightforward and lots of other people have made it before. A shorter way of saying it would be "if you don't like the same kinds of video games as most other developers, you are likely to be made to feel unwelcome".
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by js8 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:46PM (#14974001)
> "if you don't like the same kinds of video games as most other developers, you are likely to be made to feel unwelcome"

Funny, I don't like the same kinds of video games as most other developers. I like Minecraft, and only one colleague I know who enjoys it is a (very smart) woman, although she is a tech writer, not a developer (she is perfectly capable of programming, in fact it is her hobby, she just likes writing better).

So please, don't stereotype. :-)

Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by tptacek on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:53PM (#14974064)
I'm deliberately oversimplifying. If you:

1. Like sports

2. Wear expensive or formal clothing

3. Dislike video games

4. Are uninterested in science fiction

5. Don't drink

6. Are over 50

... you'll find valley software development culturally inhospitable. Obviously, lots of well-dressed 50 year old baseball fans have programming jobs. But those people don't "read" as software developers, and if you take those people and strip away their resumes, they will underperform people that don't have those characteristics in software development interviews.

Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by needlessly2 on Thursday August 10, 2017 @05:04PM (#14984269)
i'm a guy and i don't enjoy video games any more. I just feel i've grown out of that phase when I was 15. I'd rather go swimming, hiking, and try out different restaurants/bars.
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by sp332 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:21PM (#14973752)
I agree. I think X = nerd.
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by ucaetano on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:22PM (#14973772)
Could be, but I don't want to get into a pointless discussion of the name of a culture, call it whatever you want.

That's why I used X. The name is irrelevant.

Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by sp332 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:33PM (#14973862)
That's fine, but without calling it anything it becomes a puzzle to even know what you're talking about.
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by ucaetano on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @05:46PM (#14974002)
> a certain culture that I'll call X

> X (which might include sci-fi, fantasy, video-games, board games, certain types of discussions, and a lot more)

Any suggestions on how to make it more clear? I don't want to give it a name, to avoid focusing in the name, which will then lead to an endless gaming culture vs. nerd culture vs. geek culture vs. the world.

Honest question, non-confrontational, really wanna know :)

Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by Mz on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:18PM (#14974670)
You cannot please all of the people, all of the time. Trying will make you crazy.
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by sp332 on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:23PM (#14974702)
Your post is long enough that I had enough context (at least as someone in that culture :) to figure it out. It was just annoying to puzzle through the first while without knowing what you were talking about.
Re:As a Woman in Tech, I Realized: These Are Not My People by projektir on Wednesday August 09, 2017 @07:15PM (#14974653)
I thought it was perfectly clear. I quite like the usage of "X" specifically because it doesn't give it a name loaded with irrelevant baggage.