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Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 03, 2017 @11:21AM (#14920352)
> The automotive industry isn't going to let a company like Tesla bully them around.

They already have. Its too late. Who else is going to be producing 500k EVs a year in the next 3-5 years? No one.

Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by Reason077 on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:18PM (#14920907)
Who else is going to be producing 500k EVs a year in the next 3-5 years? No one.

Renault-Nissan already produce around 100k EVs per year. Is it that hard to imagine them doing 500k in 5 years?

What about China? They're certainly making plans for these kinds of volumes.

Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by mbreese on Thursday August 03, 2017 @11:56AM (#14920662)
To be honest, I'll be surprised if Tesla is producing EVs at that rate too... They have 3 models of cars. I'm not even sure there is a market for 500k/year of those three models. Even expanding that to 4 models (Y) would still leave those numbers hard to hit.
Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by MaysonL on Thursday August 03, 2017 @04:05PM (#14923286)
Elon rarely makes categorical statements about future goals, usually throwing in a few weasel words, or "we project" or "we plan", but during Tesla's last earnings call he said:

“What people should absolutely have zero concern about, and I mean 0, is that Tesla will achieve a 10,000 unit production week by the end of next year. […] I think people should really not have any concerns that we won’t reach that outcome from a production rate.”

Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by mbreese on Thursday August 03, 2017 @08:45PM (#14925434)
And I have no doubt that they will reach a 10000 unit week. And they will probably have that production capacity. But once their backlog of orders has been filled, how many orders will they realistically have per week? I think that is the outstanding question.
Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 03, 2017 @11:58AM (#14920691)
17 million new cars are sold each year in the US alone. The market is there and proven.
Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by mbreese on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:03PM (#14922054)
And how many of those new cars sold for > $35-40k?

Tesla certainly has a market, but it isn't competing for the same consumers that Honda is. The market Tesla is competing for is significantly smaller than 17M.

The amount of people who can afford any new car is not the same as the number of people who can afford a new Tesla.

Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by catawbasam on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:54PM (#14921281)
Have you driven a Tesla? If not, then you should. Might change your view.
Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by mbreese on Thursday August 03, 2017 @02:11PM (#14922147)
I've had my Model 3 reservation since the day they opened... but it's highly unlikely to assume that Tesla can hit those production marks with the (admittedly) limited line up it has.

Across their entire lineup BMW sold 2.4M cars in 2016 (including MINI) [1]. I just don't see them selling 500k/year in the immediate future. Once they add models (the Y, a replacement for the Roadster, and a Truck), then they very easily could blow through that rate. But baby steps... I'd rather see Tesla exceed modest expectations than fail to meet unrealistic ones.

[1] https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/global/article/detail/T026708...

Re:Tesla Burns Through Record Cash to Bring the Model 3 to M... by mholmes680 on Thursday August 03, 2017 @12:03PM (#14920739)
Eh... assuming demand is there. I guess it could be, but price of the car matters, prices of oil matter, politics and lobbyists matter, success of this rollout matter. There's some risks here before you call it "too late".

Also... nissan has an interesting play here. Waiting to see what they do.