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Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by myth_drannon on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:58AM (#14813598)
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by kronos29296 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:01PM (#14813621)
No fun in that. Every list has Java at the top followed by C, C++ and Javascript. Maybe Python or C# next (cuz Microsoft). Every Job oriented programming language list for the last few years.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by pjmlp on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:26PM (#14813857)
I have focused on JVM, CLR and C++ the last 20 years.

Of course I also used many other programming languages throughout my studies and career.

The fun is more what we build, not with what.

For example, the cool thing in a recent project was taking measurements from medical data readers used by health care laboratory robots.

The programming language wasn't relevant for the experience.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by kd0amg on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:57PM (#14815299)
The fun is more what we build, not with what.

Pain can definitely come from what you use to build though.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by kronos29296 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:56PM (#14814212)
The fun part is about the list not the languages themselves. Benchmarks, reviews and rankings are just the perfect time killers for me but job oriented lists have nothing new to say for now.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by pjmlp on Thursday July 20, 2017 @01:00PM (#14814251)
Ah, sorry for misunderstanding it.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by myth_drannon on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:17PM (#14813774)
And I'm happy for that. Imagine if the list would change every couple of years like with JS frameworks.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by panste on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:47PM (#14814117)
I am surprised that R is so high up.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by Mikeb85 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:57PM (#14815311)
Every industry that uses stats uses R. It's also becoming pretty widely taught in university courses (stats, biology, econ, finance, etc...). I know tons of non-programmers who use it as well, setting up a R environment is dirt simple (just install R Base + R Studio and you're all set).
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by TwoFactor on Thursday July 20, 2017 @01:00PM (#14814252)
I had the same thought. It's surprising to me that R is above JavaScript.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by pjmlp on Thursday July 20, 2017 @01:30PM (#14814576)
Currently doing some projects on the life sciences industry, most researchers I have met are using straight Excel, VB.NET when VBA macros aren't enough or R.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by mhh__ on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:45PM (#14815222)
D did surprisingly well, methinks: Two places below Rust is odd, considering the vast chasm in (online: reddit/HN) mindshare between the two.

What is the definition of enterprise here? Matlab seems a bit too high up, or is there a use for Matlab that I'm not aware of?

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by sevensor on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:53PM (#14815277)
A lot of engineers (MechE, EE, and so forth, not software) learn Matlab in school. They take that skill with them to the workplace.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by starchild3001 on Friday July 21, 2017 @02:24AM (#14818459)
I tend to be very skeptical of a list that puts python into #1 spot. R also so high? Again this makes little sense.

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2016

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by luord on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:20PM (#14821704)
Any list putting Python on top makes me happy. It still is and remains my favorite language and, even if the metrics of the list are highly selective and not a general representation, it's nice to see it represented.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by cutler on Thursday July 20, 2017 @09:24PM (#14817458)
Any jobs list which has Python above Javascript and Java has to be flawed. Dice.com is hardly the oracle either. Indeed.com would have been a better source. I also think it's better to search job postings by title.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by padiyar83 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @09:57PM (#14817549)
>> Any jobs list which has Python above Javascript and Java has to be flawed.

What data are you looking at to backup this assertion?

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by cutler on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:56PM (#14822016)
Indeed.co.uk by title search.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by fellellor on Friday July 21, 2017 @12:56AM (#14818167)
How is C used in mobile? Do people write something in C and then cross compile it to Java?

Sorry for the newb question.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by asah on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:38AM (#14813409)
Embarrassingly bogus, just click and see for yourself.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by sqeaky on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:57PM (#14814222)
I clicked it and read it, and I see no reason to believe such, could you point out what is wrong to me?
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by asah on Thursday July 20, 2017 @03:27PM (#14815551)
In mobile, the top are: C, Java, C++, C#. C and C# aren't used for mobile...

In enterprise, JavaScript isn't even top 10 ??? and R is #6?

In embedded, the top are C, C++, and Arduino which isn't even a "language" ???

In web, top are Python, Java, C# then JavaScript -- nevermind that virtually 100.0% of all web apps include some amount of JavaScript...

I'm a big fan of Python... but not this way...

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by smitherfield on Thursday July 20, 2017 @05:28PM (#14816450)
C# (Xamarin) is probably #4 in mobile after Java, Swift and Obj-C. But yes, putting C in #1 is pretty absurd, although it's based on a survey of IEEE Spectrum readers, who maybe are disproportionately working on drivers, 3D games or the mobile operating systems themselves.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by 0xJRS on Thursday July 20, 2017 @03:21PM (#14815495)
Havent even read it but if JS isn't first then its already wrong. I'm not even a js guy but I just know it should be at the top with the way web is right now.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by kimi on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:18PM (#14815016)
More ADA than Clojure? ha ha ha
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by dsun179 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:34AM (#14813379)
This list is a biased joke. The "12 metrics from 10 carefully chosen online sources" must be very bad chosen.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by bdavisx on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:18AM (#14813210)
I filtered by "Mobile" for both the "IEEE Spectrum" (which I guess means overall) and the "Trending" and Kotlin was nowhere to be found.

So I have to question the list in it's entirety. I know I"m a Kotlin fanboy and that it's not a "gigantic" language, but still, you'd think it would at least show up as trending for mobile in a 2017 list.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by kronos29296 on Thursday July 20, 2017 @11:52AM (#14813535)
"So what are the Top Ten Languages for the typical Spectrum reader?"

This is survey on top programming languages among spectrum readers. So maybe spectrum readers are not into Kotlin.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by bdavisx on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:40PM (#14814042)
Actually I was looking at the larger 40-some list, not the top 10, should have mentioned that in my comment.
Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by pjmlp on Thursday July 20, 2017 @12:29PM (#14813897)
Kotlin is pretty much a startup thing still.

Maybe now with Google's seal of approval more customers will be willing to sign off contracts delivered in Kotlin.

Re:IEEE Spectrum 2017 Top Programming Languages by geodel on Thursday July 20, 2017 @03:56PM (#14815745)
The irrational Java hate has led to this fantasy that Kotlin is going to take over the world because Google mentioned it.