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Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by kibwen on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @01:24PM (#14806001)
In addition to Chrome's bundling deals which override your default browser settings, major Windows updates now appear to reset your default browser to Edge every time.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by giobox on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @02:55PM (#14806858)
Does this actually happen? I recently installed the big Windows 10 "Creators update" and my default browser remained exactly the same (Chrome), or is this something that depends on what "tier" of Windows 10 you have?

I remember this unfortunately happening on Windows 7/8 upgrades to 10, but I've yet to encounter it on my personal machine in a Win 10 point release, at least as far as I can recall.

Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by Jordrok on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @03:28PM (#14807146)
Oddly enough, Windows 10 Pro seems to leave my default browser alone most of the time (I do seem to recall it messing with it once, but I may be wrong), but I've had it attempt to switch my default media viewers away from VLC and Irfanview multiple times. Quite annoying.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by futurix on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @03:59PM (#14807394)
That is because they still haven't fully adopted "new" file format association APIs (introduced with Windows 7).
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by errantblaze on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @06:34PM (#14808598)
Likely related to the feeling that Windows 10 resets file associations is that Windows 10 changed the way this data is stored and restores the default value if the registry keys are manipulated directly.[1] As a side-note, I don't think any of the major updates have reset my browser choice, but I have gotten an irritating pop-up suggesting that I should try Edge.

[1] https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20170517-00/?p=...

Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by metajack on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @03:01PM (#14806906)
I know lots of settings get reset when you get new Insider builds. It annoyed me constantly. Perhaps OP is on those?
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by glogla on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @01:38PM (#14806170)
Yep. This is super-scummy behavior. No surprise Google and Microsoft engage in it!
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by richdougherty on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @02:27PM (#14806625)
But that's not fair, Google's already paid for that install! ;)
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by cmrx64 on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @02:00PM (#14806409)
Ahhhh I was wondering why my desktop suddenly started opening links in Edge!
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by r00fus on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @03:23PM (#14807102)
Isn't that in direct opposition to their EU antitrust settlement? How does MS get away with this?
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by majewsky on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @03:27PM (#14807138)
I'm actually wondering more how Google is getting away with those screenshots from the submission. That's exactly the same behavior that it was recently fined for wrt product search.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by zokier on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @04:12PM (#14807489)
One reason might be that EU doesn't have many browser vendors who would put in a official complaint.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by gorkonsine on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @04:50PM (#14807775)
Why wouldn't MS complain? If MS can be good for anything, helping keep Google in check ranks #1 on my list.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by avarun on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @05:36PM (#14808191)
They reached a deal last year to stop complaining to regulators about each other:

https://www.recode.net/2016/4/22/11586336/microsoft-google-a...

Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by gorkonsine on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @07:54PM (#14809012)
This should be proof of illegal collusion and grounds for a gigantic fine for each of them. It's just like the no-poaching agreement they got in trouble with a few years ago.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by tedmielczarek on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @09:22PM (#14809384)
That would require the US to have a functioning justice department.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by endominus on Thursday July 20, 2017 @01:00AM (#14810104)
IANAL, but I think that would count as "compelling speech" ("You MUST complain to regulators about each other!") which is explicitly forbidden in the States (not sure about Europe, but I think it's the same).
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by gorkonsine on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:17PM (#14815002)
We're not talking about individuals here, we're talking about corporations. Collusion between companies for the sake of negatively affecting the market (such as establishing a cartel) is illegal in any jurisdiction with proper, functioning laws. As I mentioned before, this is similar to the no-poaching agreement which they got into trouble (not nearly enough though) before.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by bigbugbag on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @07:32PM (#14808903)
Lobbying and corruption ? At the very least they have friends at the right places.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by djsumdog on Thursday July 20, 2017 @02:18AM (#14810387)
That was my first thought from those screenshots as well. They are the dominant web portal for the world with more views than Facebook. Their position gives them a crazy advantage in the browser wars.

Firefox pulling ahead of IE back in the early 2000s was a sign of open source disruption taking on a monopoly:

https://xkcd.com/198/

Chrome is the total opposite; well at least initially. They pumped millions into Mozilla and then took the parts they liked from Gecko and Webkit and created Chrome. Originally closed source, even though we have the open source Chromium today, most people used the official Google branded and integrated version.

I feel like with Microsoft and IE and the anti-trust cases from back in the day, we're see a return to what the author termed web browser 'monoculture.' The author does make a point that at least Chrome isn't stuck in the past.

Chrome, FireFox and Edge all seem to be doing the rolling release thing today, which is vital to us not getting stuck in IE6 land again. (Not sure if Safari does this yet). I've recently started using Vivaldi, but I do miss my dedication to Firefox and all the years of usage, plugins and bug reports.

Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by bigbugbag on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @07:30PM (#14808894)
They probably only do it outside of EU.
Re:Firefox marketshare revisited by draw_down on Wednesday July 19, 2017 @02:13PM (#14806513)
Good grief.