Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence

Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by marcusjt on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @09:45AM (#14744083)

Whatever next? Have American AV companies been "Working with American Intelligence"? That would be just as shocking... ;)

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by pjc50 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @11:54AM (#14745196)

Thanks to the wonders of the free market, you can choose which global intelligence service you want your software to be compromised to!

(I'm not even sure if this is a joke)

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by LarryPage on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @12:26PM (#14745477)

Or you can put off such decisions, and be compromised by all!

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by kurthr on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:18PM (#14745978)

What's (also not?) shocking is that huge swath of America and the rest of the world doesn't know this and just thinks... those nice people at XXX installed that wonderful virus checker for free on my new PC.

Remember the crap you remove from your uncle's computer over Christmas... and that he's was a full bird colonel with links to all of his old buddies on FB who think spear fishing involves flippers.

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by lostboys67 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @10:08AM (#14744284)

I suspect the penalties for not playing ball are more severe in Russia

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by cat199 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @11:01AM (#14744729)

In Putins Russia, westerners use antiquated soviet metaphors in to maintain a false sense of superiority and unipolar status quo

disclaimer: I like soviet russia jokes

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by lostboys67 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @11:27AM (#14744966)

To be serous Putin's and old school Chekist

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by lostboys67 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @11:24AM (#14744941)

And the rootless capitalist kulak falls out of the window accidently :-(

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by zeep on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @02:58PM (#14746958)

We know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence and they could be considered AV companies when you look at some of their mobile OSes features...

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by codedokode on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:08AM (#14751797)

Yes, they try to make their users store the data in the "cloud". Maybe they do it in hope to get profit but maybe NSA wants to keep the data from people around the world on servers in US.

Google should allow users to use their own "cloud".

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @04:56AM (#14751071)

We know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence

Citation needed.

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by zeep on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:21AM (#14751860)

They implemented NSA's PRISM program... that must have taken some work initially, if not continually.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by PhantomGremlin on Thursday July 13, 2017 @07:22PM (#14766151)

That document doesn't make an overwhelming case for Google or Apple "working with" intelligence agencies. But I haven't read the original Powerpoint, so maybe I'm simply ignorant of the facts.

As opposed to the likes of AT&T and Verizon. Which we know were actively cooperating with the NSA.

More likely is that perhaps individual Apple or Google employees were suborned, or the NSA took advantage of weaknesses. E.g. IIRC Google wasn't encrypting traffic between its data centers, Apple had a "goto fail" bug, etc. Why bother forcing companies to cooperate if you can instead take what you want without asking?

Let me ask you this: Do you think that Eric Schmidt or Sergey Brin or Larry Page or Steve Jobs or Tim Cook said something like "OK, lets give the NSA what they want."

I don't think so. More likely, if Google and Apple knew at all, they simply acquiesced to what they thought were legal court orders.

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by XzetaU8 on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @01:32PM (#14746102)

ahem... http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521809/government-it/n...

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