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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by zeep on Tuesday July 11, 2017 @02:58PM (#14746958)
We know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence and they could be considered AV companies when you look at some of their mobile OSes features...
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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by codedokode on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:08AM (#14751797)
Yes, they try to make their users store the data in the "cloud". Maybe they do it in hope to get profit but maybe NSA wants to keep the data from people around the world on servers in US.

Google should allow users to use their own "cloud".

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @04:56AM (#14751071)
We know that Google and Apple are working with the American Intelligence

Citation needed.

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by zeep on Wednesday July 12, 2017 @08:21AM (#14751860)
They implemented NSA's PRISM program... that must have taken some work initially, if not continually.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...

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Re:Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working with Russian Intelligence by PhantomGremlin on Thursday July 13, 2017 @07:22PM (#14766151)
That document doesn't make an overwhelming case for Google or Apple "working with" intelligence agencies. But I haven't read the original Powerpoint, so maybe I'm simply ignorant of the facts.

As opposed to the likes of AT&T and Verizon. Which we know were actively cooperating with the NSA.

More likely is that perhaps individual Apple or Google employees were suborned, or the NSA took advantage of weaknesses. E.g. IIRC Google wasn't encrypting traffic between its data centers, Apple had a "goto fail" bug, etc. Why bother forcing companies to cooperate if you can instead take what you want without asking?

Let me ask you this: Do you think that Eric Schmidt or Sergey Brin or Larry Page or Steve Jobs or Tim Cook said something like "OK, lets give the NSA what they want."

I don't think so. More likely, if Google and Apple knew at all, they simply acquiesced to what they thought were legal court orders.

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