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Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by danso on Thursday July 06, 2017 @09:54PM (#14715460)
Some interesting takeaways further down in the OP's answers:

- Has "zero" web dev experience; everything is built on Wordpress and plugins.

- Gets "a couple hundred thousand PV/mo"

- He picked an broad niche that he himself doesn't particularly care about.

- Amazon's change to their commission rates last month hurt his income by about 25-30%

I found this part amusing:

> I filled my site with a few dozen high quality pieces of content, then started outreaching to other bloggers in my niche, either asking for a guest post or asking them to check out a piece of content/infographic I just created and asking them if they'd "share" (link) it with their audience (aka the skyscraper technique).

I get these goddamned emails every week, sometimes a dozen from the same person asking me to mention their blog post about SQL because I happen to have a page that ranks fairly high for some general SQL info apparently. Never thought the SEO actually paid off (these request emails look like they're generated from a template that can be easily automated(.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by carbonmachine on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:22PM (#14715554)
I'm interested in getting started with Amazons affiliate program. Whenever I go to research things, I find many stories like this one. But I don't want to pursue this track. I have dev experience, don't want to pay for views, want to write in a narrow niche I enjoy, and I don't care about the lower commissions to boot. I'd be beyond thrilled if I made made more than a hundred bucks a month.

Where can I find information about this path, versus the substanceless course this person took? I haven't had a public website in a decade and just want to know how to do things decently well and not get into trouble.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by downandout on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:30PM (#14715811)
One tip for not getting into trouble is to not use SSL on the site you are sending traffic from (or use a referrer policy meta tag so that the browser is authorized to pass the referrer from your SSL page). SSL results in blank referrers by default. A friend had his Amazon account banned and earnings confiscated because his traffic had blank referrers.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by Flimm on Friday July 07, 2017 @07:49AM (#14717675)
This is not correct. SSL only blanks referrals to non-HTTPS links, the referrer is passed by default to all HTTPS links.

Since HN is using HTTPS, this should be very easy to test by just clicking on this link: https://www.whatismyreferer.com/

Note that HN includes this line of HTML which affects the sent Referrer header:

    <meta name="referrer" content="origin">
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by downandout on Friday July 07, 2017 @04:35PM (#14721845)
I'll have to ask my friend about this...he was using SSL and had no referrers and they killed his account. He had no referrer policy tag. I know he was using a tracking script that he redirected traffic through as well, perhaps that was Http.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by cpach on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:07AM (#14717740)
Interesting! Any idea why HN sets the referrer to origin?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by yahelc on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:18AM (#14718079)
The HackerNews repo is gone (and thus the issue), but at one point this was a Github issue I successfully filed to get HN to add it so their referral data for non-SSL pages wouldn't be lost:

https://github.com/HackerNews/HN/issues/68

(Background: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7197520)

IIRC, I think the developer was open to adding a referral, but not have it leak any on-site information, so this was a compromise.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ddoran on Friday July 07, 2017 @10:07AM (#14718400)
On OSX/safari, if I click on the link, it correctly says the referrer is YC News.

if I right click the link (which I often do) and open in new tab or window, I see:

No referer / hidden

In these cases it does not alleviate the issue flagged above.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by whatnotests on Friday July 07, 2017 @11:25AM (#14719079)
iOs/ chrome shows the correct referrer in both cases.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by dazc on Friday July 07, 2017 @05:55AM (#14717223)
I am a long-term affiliate with amazon and when I switched to https I didn't experience any problems at all.

With other affiliate networks I absolutely did have problems though - because of the issue described above.

I assumed the difference was amazon's use of a referral tag at the end of every url?

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by carbonmachine on Friday July 07, 2017 @01:28AM (#14716293)
I just signed up for LetsEncrypt and didn't give referer a second thought. Thanks for the tip!
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by a_t48 on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:52PM (#14715901)
How does this work WRT amazon referrals on reddit and such?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by downandout on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:59PM (#14715932)
Most major sites these days have a referrer policy tag in their HTML that allows at least the domain of the site to flow through. But I think they also ban accounts for posting direct Amazon affiliate links on places like Reddit anyway. Amazon is similar to Adsense in its propensity to ban and confiscate earnings without legitimate reason, and sometimes without explanation. Personally, I wouldn't waste time or money sending traffic to them. It's like building a house on quicksand. CPA networks are far more reliable if you want to be an affiliate marketer.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by bigtunacan on Friday July 07, 2017 @10:13AM (#14718450)
Could you give some examples of CPA networks (and for that matter what CPA stands for)? I have zero knowledge of this.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by downandout on Friday July 07, 2017 @04:18PM (#14721708)
Cost Per Action. Google it, there are many. MaxBounty, CJ.com, linkshare, etc.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by Godel_unicode on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:56PM (#14715914)
Most subreddits don't allow Amazon referral links.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by Semaphor on Friday July 07, 2017 @02:19AM (#14716457)
But gamedeals allows certain whitelisted ones (charity) and AFAIK there has been no problem.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by Godel_unicode on Friday July 07, 2017 @01:24PM (#14720196)
Good point, although I suspect Amazon is more lenient with known charity referrals.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by pc86 on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:12AM (#14718038)
If you don't care about the financial aspect then just do it. You don't need more information. Just write about the niche, link to high quality products, and build it.

There's a story about a fan talking to Jerry Seinfeld and saying basically, "I want to be a comedian, how can I do it?" having never done an open mic or told a public joke in any way. Seinfeld's response was that they were never going to make it, because if they had any chance of making it they'd already be doing the open mics, etc.

Just start the site. Write/review, and enjoy.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by bhartzer on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:52PM (#14719899)
It's not about the financial aspect of it. Create the site and the content--that's the hard part. You can always monetize the site/content later on.

Affiliate programs come and go, same with ways to monetize a site. You can always change out the ads on the site, that's fairly easy.

It's getting the traffic and building a site that people like is the tough part of that equation.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by BorisMelnik on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:47PM (#14715655)
the not get into trouble thing is easy, if you want to be an Amazon affiliate, just follow their terms of service to the letter of the law.

here is how you make money with amazon. find a niche you are passionate about, it helps if it is something with relevant amazon products. start blogging until you find you are getting inbound backlinks, comments, or other "social proof."

once that happens you can start writign guides, roundups, etc and placing product links. from there its all about getting links, and promoting yourself any way you can.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by carbonmachine on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:08PM (#14715735)
> just follow their terms of service

I've put in some time trying to parse the legal speak in their operating agreement, terms of service, etc. Most of it makes sense, but I fear I'm missing something. Though, maybe that's the point.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by always_good on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:27PM (#14715802)
I had my amazon affiliate account disabled because someone posted my site on Reddit. That's the reason they gave me, and they pretty much confirmed "yup, it's that easy" in email correspondence when I asked "so anybody can shut down an affiliate account by posting the website to Reddit?"

Super bizarre. You'd think there's more to the story, but I have nothing more. Maybe my site was competing with my account manager's or something? I'll never know.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ikeboy on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:34PM (#14715828)
initiate arbitration.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by paulcole on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:10AM (#14715975)
With who? In what jurisdiction?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by just4themoney on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:20AM (#14716018)
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/help/operating/agreemen...

To begin an arbitration proceeding, you must send a letter requesting arbitration and describing your claim to our registered agent, Corporation Service Company, 300 Deschutes Way SW, Suite 304, Tumwater, WA 98051. The arbitration will be conducted by the American Arbitration Association (“AAA”) under its rules, including the AAA’s Supplementary Procedures for Consumer-Related Disputes. The AAA’s rules are available at www.adr.org or by calling 1-800-778-7879. Payment of all filing, administration and arbitrator fees will be governed by the AAA’s rules. We will reimburse those fees for claims totaling less than $10,000 unless the arbitrator determines the claims are frivolous. Likewise, we will not seek attorneys’ fees and costs in arbitration unless the arbitrator determines the claims are frivolous. You may choose to have the arbitration conducted by telephone, based on written submissions, or in person in the county where you live or at another mutually agreed location.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by foota on Friday July 07, 2017 @05:02AM (#14717060)
Haha, it's hilarious that it's in Tumwater. That's a small town next to where I grew up.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ikeboy on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:16AM (#14715997)
With Amazon. https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/help/operating/agreemen...

"To begin an arbitration proceeding, you must send a letter requesting arbitration and describing your claim to our registered agent, Corporation Service Company, 300 Deschutes Way SW, Suite 304, Tumwater, WA 98051. The arbitration will be conducted by the American Arbitration Association (“AAA”) under its rules, including the AAA’s Supplementary Procedures for Consumer-Related Disputes. The AAA’s rules are available at www.adr.org or by calling 1-800-778-7879. Payment of all filing, administration and arbitrator fees will be governed by the AAA’s rules. We will reimburse those fees for claims totaling less than $10,000 unless the arbitrator determines the claims are frivolous. Likewise, we will not seek attorneys’ fees and costs in arbitration unless the arbitrator determines the claims are frivolous. You may choose to have the arbitration conducted by telephone, based on written submissions, or in person in the county where you live or at another mutually agreed location."

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ben_jones on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:26PM (#14715568)
Is your goal to make money or to write about your passion the way you want to write about it?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by _e on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:32PM (#14715589)
The ultimate job feels like a hobby
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by yellow_postit on Thursday July 06, 2017 @10:51PM (#14715678)
I agree up to a point but don't think that lines up well with this affiliate business model. Producing what you are passionate about, sure, following an ever changing SEO landscape and constantly tweaking in search of conversions, much less likely to overlap with the hobby as job passion model.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by carbonmachine on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:14PM (#14715756)
I'd like a good balance of the two, I suppose. If I could earn a few coins while learning and writing about things I enjoy, I'd consider it a successful venture. I'm thinking about Amazon specifically because I'm an avid user/addict.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by doctoboggan on Friday July 07, 2017 @01:28PM (#14720235)
FYI, I did what you want to do. On my personal website I write about my hobby projects that often include Amazon products. (I pretty much do all my shopping on Amazon, so anything I used in my projects is usually from them).

I simply link to the products using my affiliate link and thats it. I also make it very clear that it is an affiliate link.

When I first write a post I usually make $200 - $500 a month (even more if its around Christmas time)

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by susanrigetti on Saturday July 08, 2017 @12:17AM (#14724061)
Hey there! I don't make very much on affiliate links but I've kind of done what you want to do on my personal website. I'm a big reader so I post links to what I read and have made a specialized reading list for physics. The affiliate money is just enough each month to cover the hosting cost for the site and to buy 2-4 new books each month, so it sustains my reading (and writing) habit!
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by rdslw on Friday July 07, 2017 @06:21AM (#14717324)
For me, number one takeaway is, "he has a worker paid 600/700 usd per month (superstar)" who I suppose is generating much more value than 7% (700 of 10000).
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by acveilleux on Friday July 07, 2017 @11:56AM (#14719401)
In the beginning, his copywriter made the same 0.05$/word and the poster was making 0$/month.

So the copywriter has shouldered no risk either. He's also free to try and get more per word but he might be in a place where 0.05USD/word is actually pretty decent income.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by elmigranto on Friday July 07, 2017 @08:08AM (#14717742)
That is working for someone vs owning something. It wouldn't make much sense otherwise for either party.

I mean, imagine you work for a company and come up with a change that saves a million a year. Surely you don't expect to receive that million, do you? On the other hand, it's not your problem if sales go down this quarter, since your contract pays fixed salary.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ahoy on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:16AM (#14718062)
> it's not your problem if sales go down this quarter

of course it is, you can get laid off.

Capitalism works by siphoning off value that workers generate and putting it into the pockets of their employers. You're right that employees are (somewhat) insulated from risk in this scheme, but I don't think it's crazy to suggest that someone is entitled to more than 7% of the value they generate.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by 0xfeba on Friday July 07, 2017 @10:06AM (#14718392)
> On the other hand, it's not your problem if sales go down this quarter, since your contract pays fixed salary.

Sure, not my problem. Everyone's problem.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by jliptzin on Friday July 07, 2017 @10:10AM (#14718428)
The worker is free to leave and start his own site where he can collect 100% of the profit.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by mhb on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:43AM (#14718230)
And this guy is generating more than $10K/month of value for Amazon. So what?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by MrGrillet on Friday July 07, 2017 @02:30PM (#14720819)
This is the case for most employees, no?
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by FranOntanaya on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:07AM (#14718011)
This sounds straight out of 2005's blogosphere. Color me surprised if that field wasn't picked up clean long ago.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by ivm on Friday July 07, 2017 @12:46AM (#14716131)
> Never thought the SEO actually paid off

It not only pays off for the ad-fueled sites, it's also the only way up in rankings for a product site.

No matter how good your software is – unless it went viral you'll be annoying people with link building emails.

Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by bhartzer on Friday July 07, 2017 @09:59AM (#14718346)
>> Never thought the SEO actually paid off (these request emails look like they're generated from a template that can be easily automated(. There are services out there that make it really easy to manage blogger outreach, PR outreach, link building requests, etc. Sites like Pitchbox and Buzzstream.
Re:I make $10k per month with the Amazon Affiliate Program by dsfyu404ed on Thursday July 06, 2017 @11:07PM (#14715730)
> Has "zero" web dev experience; everything is built on Wordpress and plugins.

So what that sounds like to me is this website is just a delivery vector for whatever cookie cutter malware is floating around the ad networks who load up the sidebar.