Big firms like to use it, but most developers who work there probably don't; they just suck it up and do it for the paycheck. Source: am a developer at a big firm being forced to use Java.

I'm writing Java all day long and I love it.

For what it's worth, I'm in the process of converting one of our components from JavaScript to Java because it is incredibly fragile, difficult to modify, and everyone hates working with it. Not everyone is forced to use Java.

I really like Java actually, although we do make use of things like Lombok pretty heavily to reduce the boilerplate, enforce using inheritance very sparsely, and use immutable value types wherever possible (although sadly this is the part that gets ignored most often) - doing those things greatly improves the experience of using Java.

Google AutoValue is (for my money) a much better alternative to Lombok. Plus it's strongly opinionated towards immutability, big win.

Forced? Like with thumbscrews?

>> Java - the programming language that most seem to despise with great passion.

> Is that really true though?

one data point: yes

Every damn device runs on Java

Except for iOS ones :)

Depends on who wrote the app and what tools they decided to use.

http://robovm.mobidevelop.com/

https://software.intel.com/en-us/multi-os-engine

http://gluonhq.com/products/mobile/

https://www.codenameone.com/