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Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:14PM (#14500252)
Amongst the legendary free soloist rock climbers, here's the spread:

John Gill, alive at 80

Peter Croft, alive at 60

Alain Robert, alive at 54

Catherine Destiville, alive at 53

Steph Davis, alive at 43

Alex Honnold, alive at 31

Dan Osmond, died at 45, not free soloing

Dean Potter, died at 43, not free soloing

Michael Reardon, died at 43, not free soloing

John Bachar died free soloing at 52

It's a very small field, not many people make a discipline of it.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by cgh on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:41PM (#14501640)
You can also add the legendary Patrick Edlinger, who died after falling down his stairs at the age of 52. Who can forget the epic "Life By the Fingertips": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj1-58EfWpo
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:53PM (#14501741)
It's too late to edit, but yes, he belongs on the list! I forgot about him.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by jedberg on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:36PM (#14500479)
Survivorship bias (of the most real kind). You can only be great if you live. :)
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:46PM (#14500596)
They were all established capable climbers before they earned a reputation free soloing. That's not really true in this case. I mean, every year there are inexperienced climbers who die, but comparing them to the masters is like comparing some kid with a spoiler on his Honda civic who loses control and hits a tree to a professional formula 1 driver.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by jedberg on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:55PM (#14500709)
What I'm saying is there may have been other great climbers that we just don't know about because they happen to have one small slip early in life.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by kem on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @09:57AM (#14506460)
Survivorship bias needs to be taught in schools at a young age, like in kindergarten. It's so insidious.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by bdalgaard on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:46PM (#14500605)
I'll add Derek Hersey to that list. He's not as big of a name as those on this list, but there is a movie called Front Range Freaks which has a great segment about him and soloing. He died at 36.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by justinator on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:58PM (#14501271)
Nukie brown, upside-down!
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by gnarcoregrizz on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:05PM (#14500802)
Dan Osman still died by falling off a cliff.. equipment failure though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY6YsM5Rh0Y
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by japhyr on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:43PM (#14501147)
It's worth noting that both Dan Osman and Dean Potter died in part due to park service policies.

The park service allows all kinds of activities that cater to motorized tourists, but bans specialized activities like base jumping. Yosemite is one of the best places in the world to base jump, not just because of its beauty but because the cliffs are oriented well for base jumping. The ban pushes jumpers to fly at dawn or dusk, and hide their activities, in a way that pushes the safety margins.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @05:38PM (#14501604)
A ban doesn't force anyone to do anything to break the ban.

The correct response to the ban is to respect the parks wishes and stop BASE jumping.

If you want to push the limits that's on you. You should know the risks and act accordingly.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by BHSPitMonkey on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @09:26PM (#14503031)
This starts to resemble something like abstinence-only education in schools, though, where a hard-line stance of "just don't do the risky thing we've told you not to do and you'll be fine" leads to less successful real-world results than embracing the complex realities of human behavior.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @03:34AM (#14504354)
No it doesn't. There are other places and countries where you can BASE jump. They chose to do it where it was banned and selected times where they would evade authorities.

This sort of entitled attitude doesn't help IMO. Breaking local laws just confirms that you can't trust these communities and you give everyone a bad name.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @03:49AM (#14504412)
Do you honestly think anyone who BASE jumps gives a fuck what you think? Why even waste your time saying it? They're obviously not here to obey the rules. Like, really obviously.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @05:39PM (#14510076)
I'm not really sure I understand the point of this comment.

Of course they don't have to listen to me. But people express their opinions all the time.

Of course they should follow local access rules, local ethics and etiquette.

Most outdoor communities I've seen try and keep good relationships with local authorities. We want to maintain areas as much as they do so we can keep using them.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by kinkrtyavimoodh on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @06:48PM (#14502160)
>> The park service allows all kinds of activities that cater to motorized tourists

That's a weird kind of jab. As if the BASE Jumpers walked their way to the park.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by s0rce on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @06:50PM (#14502176)
Other than driving in your car what motorized activities does Yosemite cater to? Much of the park is wilderness and motorized transport isn't permitted.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:42PM (#14501131)
Potter also died falling off a cliff, in a wingsuit. If only they had stuck to more sensible pursuits, such as free soloing!
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Faaak on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:34PM (#14501050)
He left his ropes during days in the sun and rain, after having made many fall factor ones with it. Not surprising really.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by praneshp on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @07:45PM (#14502543)
Dean Potter died doing something even more dangerous than free soloing (as opposed to a random, unrelated thing).
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by blackguardx on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:35PM (#14500470)
Reardon's death has been attributed to free soloing on a sea cliff, but the official cause of death was drowning.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by cgh on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:44PM (#14501151)
Well, he was standing around getting his picture taken when a big wave came in and washed him away. Whether he was free soloing or suntanning, it wouldn't have made any difference. Really sad, he was a massive talent and his solo of Romantic Warrior was astonishing.

http://images.summitpost.org/original/281779.jpg

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by pacaro on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @07:20PM (#14502340)
Deep-water soloing is its own discipline, with a unique set of hazards.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-water_soloing

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by yread on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @04:10AM (#14504489)
He also planned to solo the Free rider
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by pinaceae on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @11:55PM (#14503634)
Thomas Bubendorfer, recently got hurt badly in a climbing accident.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bubendorfer there is no English page for him

He free solo'ed the south wall of the Aconcagua within a day in 1991.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by tobltobs on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @04:17PM (#14500908)
Wolfgang Güllich, free soloed Separate Reality and other gnarly routes, died in a car accident with 32.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by crikli on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:43PM (#14500564)
Dean Potter died in a squirrel suit, not soloing.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Lordarminius on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:23PM (#14500343)
It's a very small field, not many people make a discipline of it I wonder why ?

But serious question : of the four top people alive, any data on when they stopped climbing ? I would guess that would correlate with longevity.

I also recall reading somewhere that a disproportionate number of elite scientists and researchers in the 1930's - 60's were mountain climbers.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by Fricken on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:42PM (#14500547)
John Gill was doing long free solos on easy 5th class well into his 60s. Peter Croft is still working as a mountain guide out of Bishop, CA, I have no idea if he still goes out for jaunts sans rope in the high sierras, but he free soloed almost daily for decades.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by donapieppo on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @01:59PM (#14508488)
Hansjörg Auer, alive at 33 Alexander Huber, alive at 48

Auer's free solo of Marmolada 'via Attraverso il Pesce' is something in the same league as Alex's Freeride.

Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by corpMaverick on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:21PM (#14500322)
TIL about John Gill. Mathematician and climber.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by bronson on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @01:56AM (#14504029)
Eiger Dreams has a chapter on Gill. Worth a read if you're interested.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by dheera on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @09:05PM (#14502946)
... and probably many, many, more who died before making it to this list.
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by betenoire on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:40PM (#14500529)
adding John "Yabo" to that list.... but I couldn't find how he died, (suicide iirc?)
Re:Alex Honnold Scales El Capitan Without Ropes, and the Cli... by blackguardx on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @03:44PM (#14500577)
Yes, he committed suicide.