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Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by tzs on Monday June 05, 2017 @05:48PM (#14492468)
> [...] and having to take it with her to the bathroom (feeling somewhat self conscious about how her more frequent trips appeared to her younger, generally male coworkers)

Get one of these kitchen timers [1].

Set it to about 25 minutes.

When it goes off get up from your desk and spend a few minutes walking around the office.

Return to your desk, reset the timer, and go to prior step.

When you wish to visit the bathroom do so on one of your strolls around the office.

Coworkers will ask what you are doing (this is one of the reasons to use a physical timer instead of something running on your computer...it will be noticeable). Here are three reasonable explanations for why you go on a stroll around the office every 25 minutes or so.

1. It is unhealthy to sit for extended periods. If you get up and move around every 25 or 30 minutes or so most of the bad effects of sitting can be eliminated or greatly reduced [2].

2. When solving problems it is best to have a mix of "focused mode" and "diffuse mode" thinking. Get into focused mode and then when the timer goes off you can take a break and let diffuse mode take over. That walk around the office is perfect for some diffuse mode thinking. There is much more about this in the "Learning How To Learn" course available at Coursera.

3. There is a time management technique called the Pomodoro Technique [3] built around breaking tasks into 25 minute chunks paced using a timer.

Once people see you doing this I'd not be surprised if several other coworkers start doing the same. Reason #1 alone will get a lot of people.

Once several people are doing this no one will have any idea how often you visit the bathroom (well, except for those people whose can see the bathroom from their desks). And as a side effect you'll have better health and productivity.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/60-Minute-Kitcher-Timer-Tomato/dp/B00...

[2] http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/cuesitstand.html

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by maccard on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:11PM (#14492695)
If I had someone sitting in an open office with one of those tomatos ticking all day, and buzzing every 30 minutes I'd punch them.

By all means, do a pomodoro, but don't use a ticking, vibrating noisy kitchen clock.

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by xj9 on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @12:11PM (#14498324)
or do because open offices are stupid, maybe the ticking is soothing to me! if you value your control over the sounds that surround you, maybe you should push for a more private office setup?
Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by erroneousfunk on Tuesday June 06, 2017 @09:37AM (#14497089)
I'm not going to start an elaborate timed exercise ritual so co-workers won't notice when I go to the bathroom. That's ridiculous.

On a side note, I used to work in a small software startup where I was the only female. I was on my period at the time and also wanted to fix my hair, so I just brought my purse with me. I crossed paths with one of my co-workers on the way to the bathroom and he asked "Are you leaving?" I told him I was just going to the bathroom. He said "Why are you bringing your purse?"

I just looked him straight in the eyes, smiled, shook my head slightly, and said "Dan, never ask a woman why she's taking her purse to the bathroom." I'm pretty sure he walked away more embarrassed than I was ;)

But yeah, I'd rather do THAT once in a while than keep a freaking timer on my desk.

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by qb45 on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:38PM (#14492916)
When you are self-conscious doing a silly show of yourself for rationalization will only give you something more to be self-conscious about. Merely taking a walk once in a while would pass and is a good idea for other reasons, but this clock thing definitely crosses the line.

I also don't believe that everybody would jump on this bandwagon and totally share the sentiment expressed in sibling comment by maccard.

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by tzs on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @09:37AM (#14506311)
The clock is to remind you to take a walk. To prevent the bad effects of prolonged sitting you need to get up and move about every 30 or so minutes.

Most people can easily, effortlessly, sit much longer than that before they start to feel stiff or restless and so naturally take a break. It is very easy to unintentionally end up sitting too long.

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by qb45 on Wednesday June 07, 2017 @10:42AM (#14506812)
You posted this in response to some woman being self-conscious about men knowing when she is going to the restroom and I swear it sounds like your intention was to provide her with a disguise to solve this problem of hers. And apparently I wasn't even the only one to interpret it that way.

It almost feels like you are doing the exact kind of post-rationalization I said is an unhealthy thing to do :)

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by thebrettd on Monday June 05, 2017 @08:57PM (#14493859)
Sometimes I use an unlicensed Jetbrains product - it closes automatically after 30 minutes of action
Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by grageth on Friday June 09, 2017 @08:46AM (#14520951)
Sounds like you're not a programmer who's ever gotten in the zone. Because if I had a Fing 25-min timer around me I'd get nothing done.

Nothing beats coming out of a 3 hour programming blur when you realize you haven't eaten anything and have to pee real bad... but you re-wrote that entire module that everyone hates and thought would take weeks to fix. MIC DROP

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by rlt on Monday June 05, 2017 @08:55PM (#14493842)
Or just try working on not being so self-conscious. I'm pretty sure most people really do not care about how often you use the restroom.
Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by fao_ on Monday June 05, 2017 @06:36PM (#14492897)
> When you wish to visit the bathroom do so on one of your strolls around the office.

But then they will notice that your break did not coincide with the timer, and (depending on the floor plan of the open office), that you did not head for a walk, but straight for the toilets.

Re:Ask HN: Women in tech, how do you find non-toxic work env... by randallsquared on Monday June 05, 2017 @08:05PM (#14493536)
Part of the point is to deliberately coincide with the timer.