Jamboard is now available

Re:Jamboard is now available by and0 on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @04:40PM (#14405114)

I'm sort of confused about the annual management / support fee. Sounds like this would be a cool accessory that would require G Apps and therefore bring startups into the ecosystem. Why charge support for something so expensive that also requires G Suite for every user in the first place? Why isn't the functionality just linked directly into some G Suite OneNote equivalent?

I feel like that fee would really kill the appeal, if I were hunting for something like this. Also, I'm assuming there would be a support fee for each device?

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Re:Jamboard is now available by sowbug on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @07:13PM (#14406264)

This quote:

| This kind of product will often be expected to be used for 5+ years and the dependency of a non-core service from Google could affect that.

Is related to this quote:

| I'm sort of confused about the annual management / support fee

To spell it out more, here's an apt passage from Stratechery <https://stratechery.com/2017/wannacry-and-the-power-of-busin...:

| This is exactly what is necessary for good security: vendors need to keep their applications (or in the case of Microsoft, operating systems) updated, and end users need to always be using the latest version. Moreover, pricing software as a service means it is no longer a capital cost with all of the one-time payment assumptions that go with it: rather, it is an ongoing expense that implicitly includes maintenance, whether that be by the vendor or the end user (or, likely, a combination of the two).

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Re:Jamboard is now available by casca on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @05:39PM (#14405616)

Any form of collaboration like this requires something server-side that needs to be maintained so an annual fee is not unreasonable. The Microsoft Surface Hub uses Skype for Business so would be backing into an Office365 SAAS account and the Cisco one requires a Cisco Collaboration Cloud one which the only price I can find is CAD3547.99[1]

[1] https://www.cdw.ca/shop/products/Cisco-Spark-Board-subscript...

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Re:Jamboard is now available by chiefalchemist on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:39PM (#14406985)

But I think the point is you need a Google suite account. So how much more server-side are we talking about here? Enough worth killing sales for?

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Re:Jamboard is now available by anderiv on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @05:26PM (#14405514)

There is precedent for an annual fee: they charge one in addition to the purchase price for their Chromebox for Meetings device as well.

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Re:Jamboard is now available by chiefalchemist on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @09:37PM (#14406977)

Keep in mind that this is the same outfit that completely botched the rollout of Wave. They KNEW it was a product dependent on the network effect, and instead they drank their own Kool Aid. Simply further proof Google is an algorithm company that dreams electric Apples.

Helen of Troy has no fear of Google. None.

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Re:Jamboard is now available by sigacts on Tuesday May 23, 2017 @11:55PM (#14407505)

Wave was announced in 2009, and though it was not successful, it's feature breakthroughs led to realtime collaboration in Google Docs.

Innovation is not a linear convention.

In your warped exegesis of the world, Apple didn't launch the Newton and Microsoft never pushed the Zune.

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Re:Jamboard is now available by chiefalchemist on Wednesday May 24, 2017 @06:32AM (#14408944)

You're confusing the product with the rollout / marketing. Wave obviously needed network. So what was the point of limited invites.

Imagine this. I want to have a group chat - a la Slack - and 9 team members are able and one is not. Guess that happened? No Wave use.

The point is simple. The history of stupidity, shite customer service and abandoment is there...Google is not - yet? - a world class product company. Innovation is not the issue. Execution is.

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