Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by pottersbasilisk on Sunday May 21, 2017 @04:33PM
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Do you have any legal citations about the right to be heard?
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Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by dang on Monday May 22, 2017 @03:35PM
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We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14388706 and marked it off-topic.
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by delinka on Sunday May 21, 2017 @04:42PM
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Do you have any legal citations about any party being compelled to listen to another such that the other's right to free speech is preserved?
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by pottersbasilisk on Sunday May 21, 2017 @05:19PM
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I havent heard of the right to be heard, but most people know of free speech.
So where are you getting the idea of the right to be heard ?
Is it a legal idea, your personal idea, a philosophical idea ?
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by henrikschroder on Sunday May 21, 2017 @05:41PM
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Are you trying to derail, or are you seriously not understanding that there is no right to be heard, it's a thing GP made up on the spot to illustrate what free speech is not?
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by pottersbasilisk on Sunday May 21, 2017 @07:44PM
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Look Im not lawyer.
But I do know free speech is something extraordinary legalistic in america so Im asking for clarification.
http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-res...
https://www.thefire.org/free-speech-includes-the-right-not-j...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/opinion/who-is-entitle...
A google search showed tons of different opinions and views on what I originally thought was a simple view.
So no its not as simple as people are claiming or saying
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by afuchs on Sunday May 21, 2017 @04:46PM
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Are you asking for proof that a speaker has a right to force other people to listen to their argument?
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by delinka on Sunday May 21, 2017 @04:51PM
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I read it as requesting exactly the opposite.
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by pottersbasilisk on Sunday May 21, 2017 @05:16PM
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any legal precedent one way or another.
Ive heard of free speech but nothing either way about a right to be heard.
Re:Facebook's internal rulebook on sex, terrorism and violence
by delinka on Sunday May 21, 2017 @07:01PM
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That's because there's no "right to be heard." Just because we have a right to speak freely doesn't mean we have a right to be listened to. You might be free to say whatever you like, but everyone else is free to ignore you; owners of publishing platforms are free to not publish your recorded words.
As I said, freedom of speech does not automatically transfer into a right to be heard.