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Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @12:44PM (#14351010)
I use the front page because I'm interested in what's popular. But someone's angry "f--k (politician here)" rant isn't my idea of entertainment, even if I don't like the politician, likewise various violence/creepy stuff that makes the front page. Reddit doesn't let me block subs.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by theWheez on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @12:49PM (#14351058)
In my experience, you get out of reddit what you put in.

With an account you can unsubscribe from specific subreddits, which I have done to clean up my feed from angry/creepy/violent stuff and I get posts that I am very interested in, primarily from smaller subreddits about hobbies, sports, cool technology, etc.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @12:55PM (#14351112)
I have an account, and am unsubscribed from subreddits I do not like. There's no way to visit /r/all without seeing all the political hate, creepypasta, and violence.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by danso on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:19PM (#14351363)
I've been a frequent Reddit user for 7+ years. I honestly don't remember the last time I've ever been to r/all except when some massive drama hits and I want to see what the fuss is about. I'm subscribed to dozens of subreddits so my default homepage is never wanting for interesting content. Because I've unsubscribed from r/news, r/worldnews, r/politics, I never see Reddit discussions on the news of the day. On the other hand, I greatly enjoy the occasional r/politicaldiscussion and r/neutralpolitics thread that show up on my homepage.

And I'm a user who sometimes seeks drama, that is, r/subredditdrama is one of my guilty pleasures. And I still don't get much of a toxic vibe.

That said, I also don't check r/programming very often. The discussions there seem much more blowhard than their equivalent threads on HN. So in other words, there already is a decent alternative to Reddit: HN. Twitter is also pretty decent.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by jerf on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @02:06PM (#14351833)
/r/programming's virtue has definitely faded, but you can almost make up for it by subscribing to the dominant subreddit for all your languages of interest. Reddit's big enough that most of those are pretty active on a day-by-day basis, or hour-by-hour in the biggest cases.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by flamedoge on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @02:57PM (#14352273)
you seek drama and you don't mention r/drama?
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by danso on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @05:33PM (#14353490)
Ironically I hadn't even realized that r/drama existed until at some point I noticed it being mentioned in r/subredditdrama threads. I'm not sure what the history between those 2 subs is (r/subredditdrama has 270K subscribers vs. r/drama's 32K). But r/drama seems to involve a lot more shitposting and personal-scale conflicts, e.g. a Prius driver having a history of anal-retentive commentary. Whereas r/subredditdrama is for when an entire forum goes apeshit. Or at least several impassioned commenters.

I think the difference in quality is actually more of a testament to how the mods run the community, even though both r/drama and r/subredditdrama have large overlap. But the latter seems to have instituted a culture of determined understatement, so threads have titles like "A visitor to /r/JapanTravel is adrift after he discovers that Japanese girls don't care about him". Whereas r/drama's current top post points to a Twitter account and has the title, "Orange ameriburger goes full retard...again"

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:54PM (#14351717)
Rule #1: don't visit /r/all.

Also, you say you're interested in what's popular. And this is exactly the source of your problem. What's generally popular is what appeals to the widest audience in general population. And that is exactly what you see - "political hate, creepypasta and violence". It's the same in YouTube comments, it's the same in all general-purpose discussion boards. Lowest common denominator.

If you seek sanity, you have to start frequenting domain-specific boards, especially those with actual moderation. Be it Hacker News, topical subreddits, or communities around particular bloggers. People there are still regular human beings, but community focus does wonders to the quality of discourse.

Is all of that sad? Yes. Welcome to the human fucking race.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nsuser3 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:25PM (#14351427)
Look here, you can filter subs from /r/all: http://i.imgur.com/YIEduLP.png
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by wand3r on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:48PM (#14351641)
I hate Reddit; but what you've brought up is simply a feature not a bug:

> /r/all

It includes all the subreddit potentially; that's the point. Make a metareddit if you want tighter control; or tailor your FP

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by awalton on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @04:21PM (#14352958)
And once you've spent all of that time making reddit meaningful... there's virtually no new content, because you realize that the site is basically an echo chamber (not that HackerNews is much better in this regard, but eh.)

Reddit was done once they refused to put the jackboot to the hate communities over fears of the Digg-like user revolt, letting them fester and take over other subreddits. It's literally impossible to go a day on reddit without running into some racist diatribe, even if you go to the far-flunged reaches. Even /r/linux is completely unreadable.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by wand3r on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @04:34PM (#14353067)
We have different opinions, but the same conclusion. I haven't found Reddit relavent in years and they still don't turn a profit.

Nothing against it or regular users, just not for me anymore

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by pcbeef on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:38PM (#14351552)
If only reddit allows you to customise what you see... oh wait it does.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by theWheez on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:15PM (#14351321)
Then don't visit /r/all?

I'm not sure what the issue is here.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:23PM (#14351406)
As mentioned: I'm interested in what's popular.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:55PM (#14351722)
As mentioned upthread: therein your problem lies.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by PKop on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:23PM (#14351400)
Why do you have to visit r/all ?
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:27PM (#14351446)
Already answered elsewhere.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by pavel_lishin on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:57PM (#14351743)
How does Voten purport to solve those problems? It sounds like less of a Reddit problem, and more of a Gabriel's Theory† problem.

And given that currently you cannot create your own channels on Voten (subreddits), it sounds like the moderation problem is going to be an even bigger nightmare than on Reddit.

† https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by deong on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:30PM (#14351473)
Reddit is basically NNTP with a special client that offers a "here's top-rated stuff from everything" option. Which for anyone who used NNTP, should be self-evidentally a thing to be avoided. But like NNTP, some of the groups are fantastic.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by Antrikshy on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:03PM (#14351198)
Everyone has a different front page, and it's up to you to tune it to make it work best for you. A few popular communities on Reddit may be toxic, but I'd say the vast majority isn't.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by will4274 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:02PM (#14351195)
It does actually. You can exclude subs from /r/all.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by maxerickson on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:05PM (#14351220)
There is also the excellent setting "don't show me submissions after I've downvoted them".

Click once to mark something as the sort of thing you don't want to see and to hide it!

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:24PM (#14351421)
Not according to /r/help:

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/44498b/how_to_hide_or...

> there is no basic Reddit feature which will hide or filter a subreddit from the /r/All page.

Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nsuser3 on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:26PM (#14351439)
Well, the help is wrong then: http://i.imgur.com/YIEduLP.png
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by TJSomething on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:48PM (#14351649)
That page is out of date. They added filtering for everyone in November.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by michaelmrose on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:08PM (#14351243)
You realize that you can make your own front page called a multi reddit right?
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:10PM (#14351267)
Yes. I want to see popular shit from all all across reddit. Including subreddits I don't know about. There's no way to do that without seeing all the anger/violence/etc.
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by PKop on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:23PM (#14351409)
Filter those ones out?
Re:Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public ... by nailer on Tuesday May 16, 2017 @01:26PM (#14351435)