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Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by wcarron on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:34PM (#14295336)
Real confirmation of an attack would be a nice-to-have in this situation. I can see 3 probable realities:

1. The sheer volume of commenters and responses took down the system. They cover it by saying a DDoS attack was the cause. 2. They are intent on crippling Net Neutrality anyway, and either designed the system to insufficiently handle traffic and call it a DDos or even DDos themselves. 3. Since there are groups with vested interest in removing net neutrality, and they have deep pockets, I can easily see a few groups moving to protect their interests. In other words, a legitimate DDoS attack.

All 3 seem equally likely to me, especially considering Ajit Pai's stance on NN. This is not encouraging as a citizen of the US.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by ben174 on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:14PM (#14295672)
John Oliver's video is #3 trending on YouTube right now. It specifically calls for people to write comments on that page. He even bought up a domain that points directly to the page. http://gofccyourself.com
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:14PM (#14296474)
To those trying http://gofccyourself.com, your TL;DR instructions are to click "Express," fill in your comment (you're the "filer"), review and submit.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by pera on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:43PM (#14295887)
Citing the second paragraph of the posted article:

> “These were deliberate attempts by external actors to bombard the FCC’s comment system with a high amount of traffic to our commercial cloud host. These actors were not attempting to file comments themselves; rather they made it difficult for legitimate commenters to access and file with the FCC.”

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by unityByFreedom on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:53PM (#14295969)
And the official statement from the FCC,

> “Beginning on Sunday night at midnight, our analysis reveals that the FCC was subject to multiple distributed denial-of-service attacks (DDos). These were deliberate attempts by external actors to bombard the FCC’s comment system with a high amount of traffic to our commercial cloud host. These actors were not attempting to file comments themselves; rather they made it difficult for legitimate commenters to access and file with the FCC. While the comment system remained up and running the entire time, these DDoS events tied up the servers and prevented them from responding to people attempting to submit comments. We have worked with our commercial partners to address this situation and will continue to monitor developments going forward.” [1]

Given that the FCC thinks "bulk commenting" via a spreadsheet is a proper solution to their website difficulties, I don't really believe in their ability to diagnose an issue as a DDoS. More likely, lots of people were trying to comment but couldn't.

[1] http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017...

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by thomastjeffery on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:02PM (#14296414)
That sounds like they are using the term "DDoS" to define John Oliver asking his viewers to actually write legitimate comments.

That would be a very incorrect usage of the term.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by PhasmaFelis on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:33PM (#14296255)
> "While the comment system remained up and running the entire time, these DDoS events tied up the servers and prevented them from responding to people attempting to submit comments."

...That doesn't sound like "up and running."

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by failrate on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:27PM (#14296519)
It sounds like weasel-speak for "the web service didn't crash", but our switch was completely saturated.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by thaumasiotes on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:33PM (#14296250)
I'm imagining something like

- User tries to load the page to comment.

- High traffic. It fails.

- User reloads the page. It fails.

- "We're being hit by malicious requests that don't attempt to file comments!"

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by pohl on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:03PM (#14296419)
Yeah, today after I watched the video, I went to the domain, clicked the button to express, saw the form fields, and decided I'd come back to it after work.

I'm probably not the only one who dropped-off after seeing all the form fields.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by alexchantavy on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:16PM (#14296477)
I really hope that they take they take this as a sign of high level of interest and not DDoS :\
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by rgbrenner on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:49PM (#14296351)
That still seems to fit the description of John Oliver..

Hes an external actor (to the FCC system).. he wasn't attempting to comment himself, but his actions sent a large number of people to the FCC website.. too much for the host to handle, which made it difficult for commenters to access the site.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by ben174 on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:10PM (#14296455)
He specifically called out to 4chan and other "trolls". It may be an attack, but I still think it's a result of John Oliver's calling.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by mino on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @05:24PM (#14303924)
Here is the video of that episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vuuZt7wak
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by clusmore on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:59PM (#14295543)
In 2016, Australia held its first online-first national census. Unsurprisingly it was a complete disaster, and the government told us the system was the victim of a DDoS attack right around dinner time for the east coast. They also told us they expected around 10 million participants and that during capacity planning they took the expected 1 million submissions per hour and doubled it to be safe, i.e. that a bunch of statisticians thought that 10 million people would form a uniform distribution over a day rather than spiking when they get home from work.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by duncan_bayne on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:42PM (#14296305)
Yeah. The ineptitude there was staggering. I was actually going to refuse to fill out the census on principle, but my wife's sense of civic duty prevailed ;)

Fortunately so did her risk analysis skills. She noticed those numbers being bandied about by the Government prior, and decided she'd log on the very moment the census opened, because it was likely to fail under load.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by Uehreka on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:07PM (#14296438)
After watching John Oliver's show on HBO Now, I tried to leave a comment and the site was down. This was at midnight, around the time all HBO Now subscribers would've been getting to the "Here's how to leave a comment" part of the program. No doubt live viewers had posted about gofccyourself.com on social media after doing it themselves, adding to the traffic.

This was no attack, this was legitimate public outrage.

Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by rybosome on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:46PM (#14296605)
The lunacy of something that provokes this much public outrage continuing on unabated just floors me.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by wccrawford on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:08PM (#14296094)
4. There are idiots out there that would DDoS it simply because it's there and think it'd be "fun" to take down something important.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by ben_jones on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:14PM (#14295667)
1a. Incompetent IT failed to implement proper monitoring/logging and they honestly don't know if it was legitimate traffic or a DDOS attack.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by SEJeff on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:47PM (#14295915)
This is the US government, which generally procures according to the lowest bidder. Unfortunately, this kind of thing is business as usual.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by pvg on Monday May 08, 2017 @06:30PM (#14296233)
"Three probable realities" is an oddly quantum way to describe three speculative theories.
Re:FCC’s comment system targeted by DDoS during filing perio... by wcarron on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @11:16AM (#14300725)
Yes, perhaps the wording was odd. There is an actual... er, sequence of events that did happen. In other words, a reality. There is reality and speculation, but seeing as I can't know for certain, I can only speculate. The options I listed appeared to me to be the most probable.