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Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by kjksf on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:21PM (#14295245)
Elon Musk stated that their technology is 2 years away from full autonomous driving. Tesla is planning LA -> NY fully autonomic drive by end of this year.

Waymo has already started a real pilot of fully autonomic driving for regular people in Phoenix area. I predict that means they are less than 1 year away from ditching training wheels and launching it fully.

Some think that changing laws to make legal will be the hard part but I see the opposite: states will be competing for who's first to make it possible.

Many states, including CA, already made testing possible. You just sign up and ask "can I test my self-driving cars, on real roads, possibly destroying other cars on those roads and killing people. Pretty please?".

Laws are hard when they're controversial and self-driving cars are political goldmine:

* dramatically less deaths and other kinds of destruction due to less accidents

* cheaper transportation

* the sheer coolness of self-driving

It'll take only few states in US to allow it and other states will have to follow or the politicians will look very stupid if a taxi drive in SF costs $1 and the same is $10 in Chicago.

No-one will have to flaunt the law, it'll get changed very quickly.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by aetherson on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:32PM (#14295330)
Waymo's Phoenix test will include an employee in the driver's seat ready to take over. (See: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/technology/waymo-to-offer..., and note the sentence "All the Waymo cars will have a technician who can take control in an emergency.")

Elon Musk said that Tesla's driverless technology was "probably better than a person" more than a year ago. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/01/11...). What I'm saying is, Musk is a big promoter of Tesla and taking his ideas of when the technology will be ready at 100% face value is foolish.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by joshuamorton on Monday May 08, 2017 @07:22PM (#14296502)
>All the Waymo cars will have a technician who can take control in an emergency.

This is likely more due to regulatory reasons than anything else. Waymo's cars have an exceedingly low rate of required intervention.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by keeptrying on Monday May 08, 2017 @09:34PM (#14297084)
In Palo Alto.
Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by joshuamorton on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @04:13PM (#14303435)
And Tahoe (light snow) and Seattle (rain/fog) and a couple of other places. Sure, most testing has been in the Bay Area (although at this point I'm not actually sure if that's the case anymore).
Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by paulcole on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:51PM (#14295485)
>Tesla is planning LA -> NY fully autonomic drive by end of this year.

But that's not really a very impressive feat compared to 3-5 days of non-stop driving in NYC. I mean who cares if it can go cross-country? I want it to take me from my apartment to the office to the grocery store to Target out to dinner and then back home again.

Hundreds and hundreds (probably >1,000 even) of those cross-country miles are going to be desolate and essentially carless.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by placeybordeaux on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:34PM (#14295826)
If I could get something close to an RV that could do the highway section to a national park or another major US city while letting 2+ people sleep in the back I'd be very interested in getting that and doing a very cheap vacation across the country.

As it is driving on a boring highway all day and finding a hotel at night sucks. I'd much rather leave the driving to the night while we sleep.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by ericleung on Monday May 08, 2017 @05:25PM (#14295757)
I think that's completely the right idea, but I don't think the difficulty in "self-driving" is the carless-ness of those highway roads. Highway roads tend to be easy because you don't have a lot of edge cases. Cars are always driving at roughy the same speed, and there aren't very many lights or intersections or bicyclists or pedestrians, etc.
Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by luca_ing on Tuesday May 09, 2017 @08:03AM (#14299265)
> Elon Musk stated that their technology is 2 years away from full autonomous driving. Tesla is planning LA -> NY fully autonomic drive by end of this year.

While that's nice, it's kinda the low-hanging fruit.

I'll be impressed if somebody manages autonomous driving in, say, New York (or Kolkata if you're feeling ambitious), at night, during snowfall, navigating a construction site and/or traffic regulated by policemen.

This is taxing but completely possible (and entirely expected) for a human driver. Whereas the lane-following autopilot in my car is routinely confused by shadows on a pleasant day.

Re:Has Uber killed off its self-driving trucks? by ghaff on Monday May 08, 2017 @04:25PM (#14295269)
I actually agree that if the tech works extremely reliably, the legal/regulatory hurdles may take some time but aren't going to be a major roadblock.

We are quite far apart however on how close we are to "just works."