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Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday May 04, 2017 @11:41AM (#14265658)
> What advantage does Soylent have over say, other meal replacements e.g. Slimfast, weight watcher shakes, juices etc

Which of those examples are actual food replacements instead of liquid candy blasted with vitamins?

Slimfast high protein is the only option I see online that doesn't include huge amounts of sugar, but a single 180 calorie shake also gives way too much vitamins and protein to be sane times 10, which is what you need to get a day's worth of calories from it.

Weight watchers shakes look like they have exactly the same issue as slimfast high protein, except with more sugar and more servings required.

So here you are crapping on the product, but you actually haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by nommm-nommm on Thursday May 04, 2017 @03:58PM (#14268194)
Products for people on feeding tubes like Jevity?

Last I checked Soylent contained Sucralose (Splenda).

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by andygates on Friday May 05, 2017 @03:48AM (#14271791)
Not speaking to that specific product, but actual medically-approved food replacements are at a big price premium, because their use is so niche.

(And if it's not going in your mouth, it can taste like ass.)

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by DanBC on Friday May 05, 2017 @06:30AM (#14272393)
> but actual medically-approved food replacements are at a big price premium, because their use is so niche

No, they're expensive because no food manufacturer wants to kill the customers, and these customers tend to be at significantly increased risk of death.

> And if it's not going in your mouth, it can taste like ass.

Medical sole-source of nutrition products can be given through a naso-gastric tube, but many of them are designed to be drunk. Manufacturers have increased the range of flavours because they recognised that people hated the vanilla / chocolate / banana / strawberry limited range.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by musesum on Thursday May 04, 2017 @05:20PM (#14268942)
> ... sucralose

Funny how that information buried on the site. I've re-ordered a few times based on its (prominently featured) use of Isomaltulose, thinking that is where the sweetness came from. Some evidence that sucralose will spike insulin. Seems to jibe with personal experience. Will probably hold off until they eliminate sucralose. Perhaps trehalose?

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by aidenn0 on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:34PM (#14269837)
Huh, I thought they got rid of sucralose in 1.7; it's clearly there in 1.8 though.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by nommm-nommm on Thursday May 04, 2017 @06:21PM (#14269393)
I don't like artificial sweeteners because I am worried about changes in gut bacteria. There's some research suggesting it may.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by xeromal on Thursday May 04, 2017 @07:28PM (#14269801)
Meaning they'll eventually become capable of digesting sucralose? Or that the artificial sugars are killing our gut bacteria. One I care about. Haha.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by nommm-nommm on Friday May 05, 2017 @06:32AM (#14272401)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweete...

Last year, though, a team of Israeli scientists put together a stronger case. The researchers concluded from studies of mice that ingesting artificial sweeteners might lead to—of all things—obesity and related ailments such as diabetes. This study was not the first to note this link in animals, but it was the first to find evidence of a plausible cause: the sweeteners appear to change the population of intestinal bacteria that direct metabolism, the conversion of food to energy or stored fuel. And this result suggests the connection might also exist in humans.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by atomical on Thursday May 04, 2017 @11:46AM (#14265707)
Protein isn't a panacea. Eating 2,000 calories of Soylent a day would mean consuming 100 grams of protein. That's unnecessary for the average person.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday May 04, 2017 @11:55AM (#14265818)
Eating 2000 calories of Slimfast notcompletelysugar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^high protein, because it seems to be their only option that isn't giant heaping piles of sugar, would net you 222g (and wickedly overload you on vitamins, but, you know, whatever, right?). Which would you prefer?
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by atomical on Thursday May 04, 2017 @12:06PM (#14265928)
Eat some fruit and vegetables.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by viridian on Thursday May 04, 2017 @11:54AM (#14265811)
Man, I wish I needed 100g of protein a day. I try to be very conservative on my intake, and I still need 142g minimum at 180 pounds.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by rhblake on Thursday May 04, 2017 @12:28PM (#14266179)
RDA for protein is 0.8g/kg (~0.36/pound), so about 65g in your case if you're sedentary. 1g/pound is an old bodybuilder myth according to this article [0] which goes through various studies: "many review papers have concluded 0.82g/lb is the upper limit at which protein intake benefits body composition". This is for strength athletes and bodybuilders, mind you: most people (even many athletes) need far, far less.

[0] http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-pro...

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by BugsJustFindMe on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:23PM (#14266761)
> 1g/pound is an old bodybuilder myth according to this article

Except that every time I've ever seen/heard it from bodybuilders it has always been 1g per lean pound which fits pretty well with your 0.82 figure accounting for typical bodyfat percentages. So your article is arguing a strawman and they've been right all along.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by rhblake on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:49PM (#14267028)
You're right, I forgot about that. My main point was that parent is probably overdoing it (even if he/she were a bodybuilder), and this seems to be quite common.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by sheepmullet on Friday May 05, 2017 @08:10AM (#14272784)
What do you mean by overdoing it?

It's hard, although possible, to have too much protein.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by vorpalhex on Thursday May 04, 2017 @01:10PM (#14266638)
That's not a massive ton of protein. It's probably a bit more than the average person is likely to make use of but I'd rather an extra 20g of protein than an extra 20g+ of sugar.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by duncan_bayne on Thursday May 04, 2017 @10:16PM (#14270651)
> So here you are crapping on the product, but you actually haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it.

Why should suggesting a replacement be a requirement for criticism?

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by glenstein on Friday May 05, 2017 @06:22AM (#14272357)
In this particular case, the criticism was that there are better replacements.
Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by crispyambulance on Thursday May 04, 2017 @12:35PM (#14266259)
>... haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it.

The "realistic replacement" is to not worry too much about perfectly balanced nutrition if you need skip an actual real meal occasionally. The body can handle it.

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by squeaky-clean on Thursday May 04, 2017 @03:43PM (#14268056)
Buy why not Soylent? Why is it so offensive compared to not eating at all or eating Taco Bell or a few granola bars?

A better alternative to Soylent is going hungry? Why?

Re:Soylent Closes $50M Series B Round Led by GV by DanBC on Friday May 05, 2017 @06:34AM (#14272409)
> Buy why not Soylent? Why is it so offensive compared to not eating at all or eating Taco Bell or a few granola bars?

When Soylent launched they made several misleading, unethical, medical, claims.

They've since dropped every single one of those.

Soylent have had a number of product recalls. They don't have a huge volume of product, and they've only been in business for a short time, so it's a bit worrying that they haven't fixed their problems.

Some people think that when you're raising money from the public you should be honest. Some people think that when you're providing a safety critical product you should be competent.

There's also an element of backlash against the massive hype / very successful marketing - we see this with any product.