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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by yincrash on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:20PM (#14029025)
With the exception of Hong Kong, aren't these all pretty authoritarian states?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:24PM (#14029256)
I'm not sure about Singapore, but Doha and Dubai are the both capital cities of a monarchy: Qatar and UAE, respectively. Keep that in mind if you ever visit.

I lived in the UAE for ~14 years, so I can give you some idea of how safe Dubai is.

- You can leave your car in a parking lot for hours, unlocked, with expensive devices clearly visible. Nobody would even come close to it.

- There is no need to lock your house when you leave. People usually do though, because it just make sense to do so.

- You can walk virtually anywhere in Dubai at any time of night, completely alone. Nobody will bother you.

- The UAE has some of the friendliest police I've ever seen. Oh, and they are extremely professional and responsive, and are insanely good at what they do [1].

In my 14 years living there, I have never once been robbed, have never even witnessed a crime or robbery, nor have I ever heard of someone (e.g., friends) falling victim to one. The only incident was a break-in at the home of a family we knew. That's it.

And I hear that Doha is even safer than Dubai!

[1]: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Mabh...

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by srtjstjsj on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:49PM (#14029330)
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:52PM (#14029348)
Yep, their human rights track record is terrible, but even with that, Dubai is still safer than most other large cities.

What do you mean by "tourists"? Did you miss the part where I say that I lived in the UAE for 14 years?

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by realusername on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:22AM (#14030564)
You are probably not an Indian construction worker.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by darkcube on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:54PM (#14034772)
...or a woman
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:10AM (#14031655)
I'm not. Read my bio. But a fact is a fact: Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by sqeaky on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @02:21PM (#14035744)
I think you are willfully missing the point. You cannot compare Dubai's "Safe" to other place's "Safe" because other places view things like woman being raped as "unsafe" and Dubai does not.

Being an Indian construction worker, means being more likely to be killed institutionally. For example by ridiculous hazards at work that any other "Safe" place outlawed decades ago. It could also mean being arrested, harrassed and deported (or arrested and thrown in a hole, I don't know; racist gulag numbers are not exactly officially published) for speaking out of line.

Let's not even touch religion.

You are perfectly correct that Dubai is "Safe" for some definition of "Safe" suitable only for White or Arabian, Muslim or rich Christian Men.

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @05:47PM (#14037523)
That's exactly the point. I am not including the government in my definition of safety. Rather, the focus is purely on safety from an illegal point of view (murder, rape, robbery, etc.).
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by ptaipale on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:45AM (#14057893)
This is not a very good way to look at things, because a place without any law and order would be "safe" by these standards. If rape is not illegal, women being raped is allowed. If murder is not illegal, people being stabbed or shot to death would be just the normal way of life.

Not my idea of "safe".

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by andrepd on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:02AM (#14031328)
"Yep they commit atrocious humans rights violations and systematically abuse migrant workers, but at least you can leave your car unlocked." And Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:10AM (#14031653)
I'm just stating facts here, no need to get emotional mate.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by always_good on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:26PM (#14034425)
Dubai is plenty safe unless you're a woman getting raped aka enjoying sex outside of marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Marte_Dalelv

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by n1ghtmare_ on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:58AM (#14029584)
I've been living in Abu Dhabi (capital of UAE) for the last 12 years and although I started getting more and more annoyed with the country, I can absolutely confirm what you're saying. Safety is almost always at the top of the pros/cons list.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by douche on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:27PM (#14029266)
Haha, that sounds like back home in western Maine, if you're a local who isn't a known drunk or stoner. Even then, you can leave everything unlocked, without fear
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by triplesec on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:40PM (#14029102)
unfortunately, Hong Kong is turning authoritarian too, with only a semblance of democracy under the iron thumb of Beijing.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by dingo_bat on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:34PM (#14029076)
Didn't Hong Kong pass over to China about a decade ago?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by xiaoma on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @06:10AM (#14031035)
It was 20 years ago, in 1997.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by vkou on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:36PM (#14029288)
Hong Kong is still a SAR.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by ptaipale on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:47AM (#14057901)
But slightly more and more in name only, with Beijing controlling it more, politically.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by douche on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:49PM (#14029128)
Unfortunately England sold out Hong Kong
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by deerpig on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:26AM (#14029719)
They didn't have much choice. The new territories had to go back because they were leased. So all that they could have held on to was Hong Kong island and Kowloon. There wasn't the infrastructure to maintain those areas. And China was a very different place in those days, the insane crap that they said to the British during handover negotiations made anything Donald Trump saying today look intelligent... It was a stressful time to be living there. So today Hong Kong is a Chinese colony instead of a slightly (yes, slightly) more benign British colony.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by andrepd on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:05AM (#14031345)
Slightly? As far as I know, the United Kingdom is a democracy while China is an oppressive, imperialist, authoritarian state under oligarchic rule, with complete disregard for human rights or the cries for independence and democracy from its dependencies. Would it be ruled by Britain instead of China there would be a world of difference, don't kid yourself.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:17AM (#14031700)
Can you name a democratic country with 1 billion+ people that has achieved what China has in such a short period of time? Nope. Do you think China would have progressed the same if it wasn't managed as an autocracy?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by jungletek on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:57PM (#14037131)
So the ends justify the means, is what you're saying?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @12:26AM (#14039637)
Nope. Read my comment again. Here, I'll make it easier:

> Can you name a democratic country with 1 billion+ people that has achieved what China has in such a short period of time? Nope. Do you think China would have progressed the same if it wasn't managed as an autocracy?

Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by andrepd on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @09:58PM (#14039041)
Who cares 1,300,000,000 people live without liberty and are subject to humans rights violations? They make cheap shit. Is that what you're saying?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @12:25AM (#14039632)
I asked you two questions, and you answer with another question.

> They make cheap shit.

What?