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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:24PM (#14029256)
I'm not sure about Singapore, but Doha and Dubai are the both capital cities of a monarchy: Qatar and UAE, respectively. Keep that in mind if you ever visit.

I lived in the UAE for ~14 years, so I can give you some idea of how safe Dubai is.

- You can leave your car in a parking lot for hours, unlocked, with expensive devices clearly visible. Nobody would even come close to it.

- There is no need to lock your house when you leave. People usually do though, because it just make sense to do so.

- You can walk virtually anywhere in Dubai at any time of night, completely alone. Nobody will bother you.

- The UAE has some of the friendliest police I've ever seen. Oh, and they are extremely professional and responsive, and are insanely good at what they do [1].

In my 14 years living there, I have never once been robbed, have never even witnessed a crime or robbery, nor have I ever heard of someone (e.g., friends) falling victim to one. The only incident was a break-in at the home of a family we knew. That's it.

And I hear that Doha is even safer than Dubai!

[1]: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Mabh...

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by srtjstjsj on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:49PM (#14029330)
Safe for tourists, not for residents.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/27/dubai-...

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:52PM (#14029348)
Yep, their human rights track record is terrible, but even with that, Dubai is still safer than most other large cities.

What do you mean by "tourists"? Did you miss the part where I say that I lived in the UAE for 14 years?

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by realusername on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:22AM (#14030564)
You are probably not an Indian construction worker.
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by darkcube on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:54PM (#14034772)
...or a woman
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:10AM (#14031655)
I'm not. Read my bio. But a fact is a fact: Dubai is one of the safest cities in the world.
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by sqeaky on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @02:21PM (#14035744)
I think you are willfully missing the point. You cannot compare Dubai's "Safe" to other place's "Safe" because other places view things like woman being raped as "unsafe" and Dubai does not.

Being an Indian construction worker, means being more likely to be killed institutionally. For example by ridiculous hazards at work that any other "Safe" place outlawed decades ago. It could also mean being arrested, harrassed and deported (or arrested and thrown in a hole, I don't know; racist gulag numbers are not exactly officially published) for speaking out of line.

Let's not even touch religion.

You are perfectly correct that Dubai is "Safe" for some definition of "Safe" suitable only for White or Arabian, Muslim or rich Christian Men.

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @05:47PM (#14037523)
That's exactly the point. I am not including the government in my definition of safety. Rather, the focus is purely on safety from an illegal point of view (murder, rape, robbery, etc.).
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by ptaipale on Friday April 07, 2017 @03:45AM (#14057893)
This is not a very good way to look at things, because a place without any law and order would be "safe" by these standards. If rape is not illegal, women being raped is allowed. If murder is not illegal, people being stabbed or shot to death would be just the normal way of life.

Not my idea of "safe".

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by andrepd on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:02AM (#14031328)
"Yep they commit atrocious humans rights violations and systematically abuse migrant workers, but at least you can leave your car unlocked." And Mussolini made the trains run on time.
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by Cyph0n on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:10AM (#14031653)
I'm just stating facts here, no need to get emotional mate.
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by always_good on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:26PM (#14034425)
Dubai is plenty safe unless you're a woman getting raped aka enjoying sex outside of marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Marte_Dalelv

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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by n1ghtmare_ on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @12:58AM (#14029584)
I've been living in Abu Dhabi (capital of UAE) for the last 12 years and although I started getting more and more annoyed with the country, I can absolutely confirm what you're saying. Safety is almost always at the top of the pros/cons list.
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Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ... by douche on Monday April 03, 2017 @11:27PM (#14029266)
Haha, that sounds like back home in western Maine, if you're a local who isn't a known drunk or stoner. Even then, you can leave everything unlocked, without fear
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