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Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by emodendroket on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:10PM (#13969585)
I mean these Silicon Valley firms keep getting caught in blatant sexual harassment cases. I think a lot of them need, like, basic remedial education.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by vkou on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:43PM (#13972495)
I am positive that many (But not all) of these firms put their managers through sexual harassment training. I went through it before I received reports.

The problem is that it only takes one idiot to cause a problem... And the odds of at least one manager being an idiot approach 100%, as your company grows.

(In a place like Uber, though, the problem seems systemic.)

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by briandear on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:16PM (#13969651)
The irony is that these are "progressive" companies.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by emodendroket on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:21PM (#13969716)
Well, that's a whole different rant but, really, you read about grown men texting their female coworkers incessantly with crude sexual propositions and you have to wonder how they ever came to believe this was acceptable behavior.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by Jach on Monday March 27, 2017 @03:06PM (#13970699)
Presumably it's like spam, it works some percentage of the time and the consequences for it not working aren't severe.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by emodendroket on Monday March 27, 2017 @04:26PM (#13971431)
Well, until your behavior is the cause for a massive lawsuit, anyway.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by amyjess on Monday March 27, 2017 @06:03PM (#13972236)
I'd say that the reason why sexual harassment is such a problem at SV unicorns is because of the SV startup culture, not despite it.

SV encourages people to move fast, be aggressive, don't be afraid to break things, ignore regulations, disrupt all the things, etc. There are substantial similarities to the way a VC-funded startup operates and the way a pick-up artist operates.

You'll notice that Susan Fowler's blog post also goes into detail about the Game of Thrones-esque culture with middle managers constantly and openly plotting to overthrow their superiors and take their jobs. A culture that encourages you to figuratively fuck your boss also encourages you to literally fuck your subordinates. It's a culture of aggression and proving your dominance.

Big traditional conservative companies on the other hand... well, they just don't have that culture. Their culture discourages people from taking risks at every level. In order to get anything done, you have to go through several layers of bureaucracy, put everything in writing, make sure your is are dotted and your ts crossed. It discourages aggressive, disruptive risk-takers from coming near the company. And without aggressive, disruptive risk-takers, you don't have nearly the amount of sexual harassment. Yes, it still happens on occasion, but it isn't nearly as systemic or as blatant as in a VC-funded startup.

So it leads to the seemingly-paradoxical situation where the best companies for women and LGBT people to work at are the kind of "conservative" companies that you can imagine Ned Flanders working at. But culturally conservative isn't the same thing as politically conservative; I've said this before, but I have a lot of politically liberal friends (most of them enthusiastic Clinton voters) who live in the suburbs, work 9-5 at traditional large corporations, and have traditional families.

Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by emodendroket on Monday March 27, 2017 @08:11PM (#13972916)
Surely part of it has to be how many people in these companies are fresh out of college.
Re:Ask a Female Engineer: How Can Managers Help Retain Techn... by adrienne on Monday March 27, 2017 @09:10PM (#13973160)
You might be shocked at the amount of misogyny men in their 30s and 40s think is acceptable. (Also, contra 'amyjess - some of the conservative fields, in particular finance and law, are also hideously sexist & contain a ton of harassment.)