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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by ar0 on Friday March 24, 2017 @01:26PM (#13950606)
> I already use Netflix for my video streaming.

To be fair, though, if AWS were to disappear your Netflix wouldn't work anymore. And given that it took them seven years [1] to move to AWS, I guess it would take them quite a while to move to Azure or Google or their own hardware.

For the logistics / shopping part I agree, though: I live in Switzerland, where Amazon doesn't ship much except for books and I have to say I don't feel I'm missing much. In fact, many local online stores which could develop because they weren't drowned by Amazon work better IMHO and at similar prices than the Amazon website.

[1]: https://media.netflix.com/en/company-blog/completing-the-net...

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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by mercer on Friday March 24, 2017 @01:57PM (#13950849)
I seriously doubt Netflix wouldn't find some way to rapidly move to some alternative if AWS were to disappear. But by all means correct me if I'm wrong!
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by gfo on Friday March 24, 2017 @03:28PM (#13951543)
Agreed. If they go as far as randomly disabling AWS nodes to test their own resilience I'd be shocked if they didn't have some sort of contingency for if AWS went completely belly-up. Who knows, they could even have Azure nodes on standby in case AWS in its entirety went down?
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by sitkack on Friday March 24, 2017 @08:58PM (#13953459)
Everyone should have a cloud provider total-outtage strategy. You should atleast control the ability to move DNS if everything in said cloud provider is out.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by justicezyx on Friday March 24, 2017 @06:49PM (#13952862)
Well, your question is not uncommon for people having little experiences developing and operating large distributed systems.

But I can guarantee you, if Netflix can, they already did, so to make them in a position better negotiate price with AWS.

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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Friday March 24, 2017 @04:47PM (#13952089)
You seriously think there is a provider somewhere sitting on 20 empty datacenters with all the hardware procured and hooked up just waiting on an off chance Netflix might switch?
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by cgio on Friday March 24, 2017 @05:24PM (#13952344)
I don't think the AWS datacenters would disappear in thin air either.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Friday March 24, 2017 @09:56PM (#13953664)
Well neither would warehouses and other infrastructure they built but that was not the premise that is being discussed.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by brianwawok on Friday March 24, 2017 @06:45PM (#13952836)
You realize most of Netflix is not in AWS right?
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Friday March 24, 2017 @09:54PM (#13953657)
You realize that netflix is using up over 20% of aws capacity and as cool as having your own cdn is there is not much purpose in it without the part that runs on AWS.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by toomuchtodo on Friday March 24, 2017 @11:59PM (#13954029)
The part that runs in AWS could just as easily run on bare metal. Stack Overflow does it, Backblaze does it, Github does it; I'm so disappointed in this tired trite that your a special snowflake running in AWS.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Saturday March 25, 2017 @12:10AM (#13954057)
Yes it would run even better but it would take a few years to do the buildout.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by manquer on Sunday March 26, 2017 @03:27AM (#13959655)
Nothing is going disappear overnight.. AWS iaas services are commodity and not something so unique that are not replaceable with products from other cloud vendors
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Sunday March 26, 2017 @08:50PM (#13964315)
At Netflix scale they are not replaceable by other vendors because other vendors do not have enough capacity to accommodate Netflix migration.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by toomuchtodo on Monday March 27, 2017 @11:58AM (#13968794)
Can you provide information as to how much capacity Netflix would need to migrate? Otherwise, this comment has no basis in reality.
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by qaq on Monday March 27, 2017 @12:33PM (#13969162)
there are estimates that netflix is consuming about 20% of AWS. AWS does not publish a list of DCs but from regions and AZs you can put a lower bound estimate at 40 so it would be anywhere from 8 DCs to whatever the upper bound is (I guesstimated 20)
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Re:Amazon, the world’s most remarkable firm, is just getting... by paulddraper on Friday March 24, 2017 @02:57PM (#13951297)
Whatever mysterious force wipes all trace of Amazon from the earth might help Netflix find someone to run some servers.
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