Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by trav4225 on Monday March 20, 2017 @11:22PM
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Not quite, IMO -- combination safes can be feasibly opened without the combination.
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Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by paulddraper on Monday March 20, 2017 @11:31PM
(#13919664)
Encrypted drives can be opened without the password. Difficulty varies of course, but it can be done (e.g. iPhone).
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by cesarb on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @08:37AM
(#13921597)
> Encrypted drives can be opened without the password.
No, they can't. The way it's done is by trying many passwords until the right one is found. Once you have the right password, you can use it to decrypt the drive's contents, but then you are "opening it with the password".
(IIRC, there were some bad "hardware encryption" HDDs where the password wasn't actually used to encrypt the drive's contents, just verified against something in the drive's NVRAM; these can be bypassed. But that's not the case here.)
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by DanBC on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @08:42AM
(#13921626)
> IIRC, there were some bad "hardware encryption" HDDs
About those: http://www.h-online.com/security/features/Enclosed-but-not-e...
Sadly the images appear to be not working. But they were very clear: what should have been a point cloud had clear lines.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by emidln on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @09:23AM
(#13921919)
Yes they can. It's not my fault the government has access to shit hardware or that it'll take a really long time. Encryption is just a really big combination lock with a very long series of inputs.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by paulddraper on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @01:58PM
(#13924563)
I put you in a room with an encrypted drive and no password, and you will eventually be able to open the drive.
That you acquire the password in the process of opening it is immaterial.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by Buge on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @12:53AM
(#13919958)
That was only because they chose a weak password. With a 100+ bit password, it's impossible.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by CompuHacker on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @02:10AM
(#13920210)
Improbable.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by michaelmrose on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @03:05AM
(#13920358)
When the average time to unlock is equal or greater to the probably heat death of the universe this distinction ceases to matter.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by cmdrfred on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @08:15AM
(#13921474)
You could also get it right on the first guess, so its improbable not impossible.
Re:Man jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard driv...
by paulddraper on Tuesday March 21, 2017 @04:50AM
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True, though 100 bit passwords are extremely uncommon. Even deadhorsebatterystaple claims to be less than 50.