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Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by curun1r on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:00AM (#13911572)
> I would gladly pay $3000 for a washer if I could somehow tell that it will be better built

Perhaps you should check out commercial washers. The kind that you find in laundromats are designed to take a lot more punishment than the residential ones.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by lb1lf on Monday March 20, 2017 @03:50AM (#13912451)
I purchased my appliances with much the same idea in mind; I wanted something that would last, period.

Turns out around here (Scandinavia), the brand to beat is Miele, which also seems to enjoy a near monopoly in pro gear, from what I can tell (Just about every vessel I've ever sailed on carries Miele gear in their laundries. I cannot recall ever seeing anything else.)

Also, after asking around at a place repairing appliances as to what brands they trusted in their own homes, the answers were similar - 'Miele. Or, if you think that's a bit over the top, ASKO. Both are made to last and to be repaired.'

So far, the ASKO stuff has stood up very well - ten years in, both dryer and washer are still working flawlessly - and I've got three kids; running two machine loads a day is pretty much standard fare, and has been for years.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by Obi_Juan_Kenobi on Monday March 20, 2017 @02:24PM (#13916435)
If you want a higher-end appliance, European is often the way to go. Miele is a great example, but there are others.

Especially when it comes to laundry, the 'European' style is to use longer cycles that are gentler on clothes, quieter, and usually more efficient (whether on water or power use).

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by pivo on Monday March 20, 2017 @07:39AM (#13913263)
I have a 20 year old ASKO washer and dryer. The brushes on the washer's motor have to be replaced every 3-4 years and the plastic drawer where you add soap is broken and ugly looking (and unfortunately replacement parts are no longer available) but otherwise they still work well.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by iNerdier on Monday March 20, 2017 @05:59AM (#13912883)
Two a day? What on earth are they doing to require that much washing?
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by lb1lf on Monday March 20, 2017 @06:10AM (#13912916)
The oldest kid does track&field and soccer practice after school every day. Also, he swims once a week.

The two-year old runs around outdoors in kindergarten all day. More often than not, it is rainy and muddy.

The youngest still run through a couple of sets of babywear a day, down to a somewhat lackadaisical approach to her excretion of various bodily fluids.

We all swim weekly. Add to that the occasional nightly mishap by the child currently quitting diapers, and you're looking at lots and lots of laundry cycles.

Good thing water is free (It's not that we haven't got plenty of it to go around!) and power is cheap.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by craigds on Monday March 20, 2017 @06:12AM (#13912921)
I have one 18month old kid. We average about 1.3 loads a day. Several sets of clothes, towels, nappies, sheets, bibs, ... It adds up very quickly
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by Angostura on Monday March 20, 2017 @06:12AM (#13912924)
If you have three kids and one of them is a baby in washable nappies this is quite possible. You don't want the soiled diapers in with other items
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by guyzero on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:07PM (#13915289)
Miele machines are small compared to most washing machines for the US market. I had an imported AEG and when I replaced it with a LG frontloader it seemed impossible how big the drum was. I used to only be able to wash 3-4 pairs of jeans at a time and now it's like 8-10.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by BJanecke on Monday March 20, 2017 @06:25AM (#13912963)
I'm going to assume it's got to do with the multiple layers of clothing they no doubt have to wear in that climate.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by Thlom on Monday March 20, 2017 @08:14AM (#13913426)
Inner layer is always wool, which really doesn't have to be washed that much unless it's stained, but not everyone knows this so most still wash wool as much as cotton. Wool is very breathable, so just hang it out and it's as good as washed with less wear.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by ryanbrunner on Monday March 20, 2017 @07:46AM (#13913290)
Generally speaking, purchasing commercial appliances doesn't work for a few reasons:

- The manufacturer of a commercial appliance usually won't provide a warranty for it if it's used in a residential setting. - Your homeowner's insurance probably won't cover anything related to using commercial appliances in your home. - In certain cases (probably not a washing machine, but certainly other cases like kitchen appliances), commercial equipment has different standards and codes that can be hard to accomodate for (this can be especially relevant for stoves and ovens)

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by mml on Monday March 20, 2017 @09:42AM (#13914089)
This. Commercial stoves and ovens don't have any where near the fire safety constraints as consumer models. A typical commercial setting will include stainless steel jacketed walls, and a mandatory fire suppression system.

Install them in your home at your peril.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by hx87 on Monday March 20, 2017 @03:08PM (#13916789)
Presumably if you're installing commercial stoves in your residence, you're also installing all the gear that goes along with it in a commercial setting.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by jaggederest on Monday March 20, 2017 @02:56AM (#13912280)
And they're designed for repair and maintenance too, since commercial operations care about total cost, not just up front cost.

The same goes for ranges, ovens, refrigerators, microwaves, you name it.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by rorykoehler on Monday March 20, 2017 @03:43AM (#13912429)
I go for this strategy for everything from audio equipment to washing machines. Pro gear is still well built.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by simonbyrne on Monday March 20, 2017 @07:09AM (#13913138)
Works for non electronics as well: restaurant tableware is much better value than the same brand consumer stuff (e.g. Wedgwood), as long you're happy with plain white and buying things in packs of 12.
Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by ballenf on Monday March 20, 2017 @08:00AM (#13913352)
webstaurant.com is awesome for getting restaurant grade stuff at reasonable prices. Pretty incredibly well designed website too in subtle ways. (no affiliation with them, just a fan)

I bought some restaurant grade coffee mugs that are just fantastic. Pretty much impossible to chip and guaranteed.

Re:They Used To Last 50 Years by mrbill on Monday March 20, 2017 @12:40PM (#13915568)
Another vote for webstaurant.com, I buy all my cheap flatware there in bulk.