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Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by emehrkay on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:17PM (#13859939)
Where exactly does Paul stand on issues of privacy like this? You'd think we is against it, but he is also okay with ISPs selling your browsing history.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/gop-senators-new...

Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by mi100hael on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:18PM (#13859953)
Whether or not you agree, there is a legitimate & legal distinction between a private corporation and a publicly-funded government organization.
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by emehrkay on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:44PM (#13860277)
Line gets fuzzy when ISPs, in most part, are government-backed monopolies (I'm "lucky" because both Verion and Comcast covers my area)
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by datatan on Monday March 13, 2017 @03:54PM (#13861717)
He is against them being government backed monopolies. According to him, and I agree, we should be able to switch ISP's at will. If we do not want an ISP selling our data we should have the freedom to move to one that doesn't.
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by zachsnow on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @12:12AM (#13864931)
This sounds great for N >> 1 ISPs. But most of us have N > 1 (and N <= 2) from which to choose.
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by InitialLastName on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @04:51PM (#13879652)
You have that freedom now, you might just have to move to exercise it.
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by newjersey on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:33PM (#13860149)
So in my mind there are two parts to publicly funded projects. One is whether the spending of funds is worth it and another is whether the people have a choice.

We think that by definition that when private companies have programs, they're not spending public money but I'd argue (somewhat controversial I agree) that any tax break is public money. Also the second part of whether participation is mandatory. I'd say if an ISP has a de facto Monopoly in a market, then we could say participation is mandatory. I hope this part is less controversial.

Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by danjoc on Monday March 13, 2017 @01:32PM (#13860136)
SSL should prevent that. Sadly, SNI leaks the domain name. Hacker News appears in favor of SNI though, because lack of IPv4 address space.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13639112

Oddly, HN is really worried about server privacy. If we shared a single certificate across 20 domains, then people could see all those domains are hosted in the same place.

My point? We are part of the problem.

Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by C4K3 on Monday March 13, 2017 @04:29PM (#13862035)
How exactly is one domain per IP better than SNI privacy wise?

If you run one domain per IP, then it's just as obvious who you're connecting to.

Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by willstrafach on Monday March 13, 2017 @04:20PM (#13861956)
SSL does not really keep the domain name private at all either way though. That is no good solution to this, because your ISP needs to know how to route your request, right? Or, am I misunderstanding your point?
Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by danjoc on Monday March 13, 2017 @08:03PM (#13863767)
>SSL does not really keep the domain name private at all either way though.

Sure it does. That's the whole point of SNI. SSL encrypts the request, including the domain name. If you share a single IP address with multiple vhosts, you have two options. SNI, which leaks the domain in the clear, or a certificate matching all the domains you vhost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

If a server hosts hillaryclintonisgreat.com and donaldtrumpisgreat.com, then SNI leaks the domain and lets the ISP know definitively which one you visited.

Re:Rand Paul: NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communicatio... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @02:53AM (#13865579)
And in practice there will almost never be other domains on the same certificate that can cloak your actions. SNI takes a bit of metadata that is basically public and makes it fully public. If you want to hide the domain you need to use another method.