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Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by soheil on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @03:52PM (#13823656)
> we never look at or train with real user data, unless explicitly donated

What is the rationale behind this? Why not train?

Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by SmellTheGlove on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:26PM (#13823959)
I can answer this. I'm a paying Dropbox customer and I didn't donate my data. The information is mine, and we can discuss using it, but my expectation of privacy includes Dropbox not using it for any purpose that isn't storing and serving it to me unless I've expressly stated otherwise.

While I'm not that interesting of a person, I do have an interest in things like my tax returns, financials, and other PII to not be in the hands of Dropbox employees.

Short answer: Dropbox is doing the right thing, and I really appreciate that.

Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by perlgeek on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:02PM (#13823747)
Couldn't user data make it into the model, and be reverse-engineered from it, if you used it to train the model?

I mean, machine learning models aren't designed as one-way cryptographic hash functions, so you can't be sure that some of the training data can be inferred through the model's behavior.

Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by zek on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @05:06PM (#13824312)
Yes! there is an interesting paper on this subject: https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.02943
Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by j_s on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @11:11PM (#13826920)
Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by gcr on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:12PM (#13823844)
Preserving users' privacy first and foremost is absolutely the right thing to do here. I'm really glad Dropbox is willing to trade away a bit of model accuracy for better user privacy.
Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by amelius on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:22PM (#13823923)
Because the ML models might start reproducing snippets of user data.
Re:Ask HN: What does your production machine learning pipeli... by metaobject on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @04:34PM (#13824043)
Perhaps they don't have the metadata for the data?