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Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by dwringer on Monday February 27, 2017 @04:44PM (#13748507)
We choose to not go to the moon, but do the other things, not because they are hard, but because they are relatively easy, and we can make a quick buck.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by olex on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:02PM (#13748729)
"Relatively" being very much a keyword here. Nothing about sending two people around the moon is easy, there's a reason it hasn't been done in several decades.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by iamatworknow on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @10:59AM (#13754670)
>there's a reason it hasn't been done in several decades

Because it lost its novelty. Clearly the technology's already been there and had the potential to get better with continued funding.

Apollo 11 was a huge moment for the US and the world. We beat the Soviet Union to the moon, and that was the primary goal. By the time Apollo 17 rolled around there were other things going on that grabbed our attention (like Vietnam). We had already spent too much money on the Apollo program and the public didn't really care anymore, so it ended.

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by neurotech1 on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:10PM (#13748832)
I disagree about the "quick buck"

The surprising thing about this announcement is that its a private mission. SpaceX has long resisted private tourism, to pursue CRS and Commercial Crew missions. I'm sure several billionaires would have written a large check, long ago, to go into orbit.

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by stupidcar on Monday February 27, 2017 @07:03PM (#13749843)
Have they really resisted it? SpaceX haven't had, and still don't have, a spacecraft capable of carrying people into orbit, so it's not like they've left money on the table. Delivering satellites and cargo was a good way to fund and prove the rocket themselves, without which any tourism is obviously a non-starter. And working with NASA on the Commercial Crew programme provides access to NASA expertise and facilities that SpaceX would otherwise have to develop from scratch. I suspect tourism was always part of the long-term plan.

If I had to guess why they decided to start with this mission in particular, I think it is probably because it provides a better PR opportunity than simple orbital tourism. SpaceX are clearly very image conscious, and beginning by taxiing billionaires into orbit perhaps sends the wrong signal. It's not doing anything that Russia hasn't already done, and undercuts the idealistic image they put across.

On the other hand, sending people beyond LEO for the first time in over forty years is clearly a major accomplishment. And having them be private citizens, even very rich ones, sends a very strong message that private spaceflight has come of age.

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by neurotech1 on Monday February 27, 2017 @07:28PM (#13750023)
Yes, SpaceX resisted earlier tourism opportunities for a few reasons. One reason was they didn't have the corporate resources to do tourism flights, and do the R&D for CCDev & Commercial Crew Program (CCP), so they focused on Commercial Crew.

Another reason is that NASA doesn't want tourist flights to the ISS, and no private destinations were close to ready. Lets say CCP funding was delayed, and a private team offered $400m for tourist flights, they'd have to develop two different Dragon capsule specifications. One for ISS, and one for private tourism. Similar, but with non-identical requirements. With the CCP further along, the different specifications may no longer be an issue.

Another reason is SpaceX doesn't have a training program for space tourists, and they'd require a training program. The Russians require 3-6mo of training for a space tourist on the Soyuz.

That said, there are reasons SpaceX went for this plan now, and not before.

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by kristianp on Monday February 27, 2017 @07:13PM (#13749919)
Indeed, the last time people went beyond LEO was Apollo 17 in 1972. Having the capability to do so is a big step towards re-attaining the Apollo level of humans in space.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_17

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by gleenn on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:18PM (#13748909)
Everyone replying is missing this oppositized JFK quote: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

-JFK

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by hsod on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:21PM (#13748942)
I don't think anyone is missing that, cutesy little jokes like that just don't tend to do well here on HN.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by mark-r on Monday February 27, 2017 @06:15PM (#13749470)
I think possibly lots of people are missing it. How well known is Kennedy's speech for those who weren't alive at the time? And yes it was a joke, but contained within the joke is a pointed commentary.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by hsod on Monday February 27, 2017 @06:28PM (#13749592)
I think it's one of the most famous quotations in the country (it has it's own wikipedia page[0]), and the reference wasn't exactly subtle. I'm betting most downvoters (myself included) got the reference.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_choose_to_go_to_the_Moon

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by DavidSJ on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @06:51AM (#13753068)
JFK's moon speech is one of the most famous of all time, especially in the US. Up there with the Gettysburg Address and I Have a Dream.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by avmich on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:54PM (#13749288)
They are viewed as somewhat missing the point, and so aren't enjoyed.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by grkvlt on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @05:44AM (#13752778)
Sorry, a bit dense maybe, but what's 'oppositized' about it? That looks like a verbatim quote to me.

EDIT: Oh, not your usage! You're suggesting people somehow haven't realised the GP was mis-quoting JFK, I guess? I think it's more likely that everyone reading that GP comment realised, since it was a pretty obvious context for the reference.

Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by abecedarius on Monday February 27, 2017 @08:15PM (#13750288)
The Apollo program also started with around-the-moon missions before the landing missions.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by rhcom2 on Monday February 27, 2017 @04:50PM (#13748582)
Also the moon is pretty boring and Elon Musk likes exciting things.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by trafficlight on Monday February 27, 2017 @04:59PM (#13748686)
How I wish I could experience the boredom of flying around the Moon.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by Svezik on Monday February 27, 2017 @04:58PM (#13748674)
Making an automobile that people actually want to buy would be exciting.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by ctdonath on Monday February 27, 2017 @05:30PM (#13749046)
There were how many $1000 deposits on Model 3s?
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by jackmott on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @11:12AM (#13754775)
they went around the moon before landing on it, too.
Re:SpaceX to Send Privately Crewed Dragon Spacecraft Beyond ... by elastic_church on Monday February 27, 2017 @08:25PM (#13750339)
lol love it

JFKa-ching!