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Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by chx on Sunday February 05, 2017 @09:01PM (#13576010)
Everything in your post rings false.

> 13 years ago. A friend visited an airline, and had a set of cables pointed out to him: "That's the feed to the NSA".

13 years ago, that is 2004 noone would openly talk about the NSA, Room 641A was only exposed in 2006. I would also venture that in 2004 noone had or needed a direct feed to the NSA, the Internet would already do. In case you do not remember, how 2004 was, by 2000 you have Expedia, Travelocity, Priceline, Hotwire, Tripadvisor all launched. Edit: as comments below and the article itself points it out, the NSA would get your data from the GDS if it's there, what I mean here is that OP claims a dedicated line running to the NSA when it could have just used the Internet instead of a dedicated line to connect to your system. By 2004, the Internet was plenty established for that. That's all I meant.

> There are well known stories about planes making unscheduled landings in the US

This is, in fact, extremely rare. A flight which does not start or end in the USA rarely has the need to fly over it. Europe/Asia - Central America would and not much else -- and there are very few such direct flights, mostly only to Mexico City. Even a London-Bogota flight wouldn't.

> CBP opening the front doors, walking down the aisle, and pulling one guy off the plane.

While the previous event is merely rare this would be extraordinary and all over the news, even if not mainstream news. All the news I can remember about law enforcement boarding an emergency landed plane is about unruly passengers, not this Bond shit. So... source?

Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by objclxt on Sunday February 05, 2017 @09:20PM (#13576075)
> I would also venture that in 2004 noone had or needed a direct feed to the NSA, the Internet would already do. In case you do not remember, how 2004 was, by 2000 you have Expedia, Travelocity, Priceline, Hotwire, Tripadvisor all launched.

That doesn't cover airline bookings that happened via travel agent or directly into the booking system. Many airline reservation systems pre-date the internet (SABRE, for example, came online in 1964), and much of the architecture driving the airline industry is archaic (which is one reason why a system outage can have such a massive impact on flights).

Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by nether on Sunday February 05, 2017 @11:19PM (#13576449)
> 13 years ago, that is 2004 noone would openly talk about the NSA

Nonsense. The movie Enemy of the State came out in 1998 and the NSA was involved in the production, though the agency was portrayed negatively, to its chagrin.

Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by tyingq on Sunday February 05, 2017 @11:50PM (#13576574)
"The Puzzle Palace" was published in 1982.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace

Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by w1ntermute on Sunday February 05, 2017 @11:06PM (#13576405)
> A flight which does not start or end in the USA rarely has the need to fly over it. Europe/Asia - Central America would and not much else -- and there are very few such direct flights, mostly only to Mexico City.

How about Canada to Central/South America? There are nonstop flights from Toronto/Vancouver to several cities. There are also flights from Canada to southern Europe that pass through the US. Even flights within Canada (Toronto to Vancouver) pass over the US. And routes from Canada to Asia fly over Alaska.

Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by pvg on Sunday February 05, 2017 @10:49PM (#13576356)
The post sounds a little off to me too but why do you think no one would openly talk about the NSA before 2006? Nerds have been telling each other ghost stories about ECHELON since the 90s at least and Bramford's books and many other disclosers are even earlier.
Re:How the NSA obtains and uses airline reservations (2013) by avn2109 on Sunday February 05, 2017 @09:50PM (#13576164)
I'm not the OP but it doesn't strike me as absurd to imagine that if the security apparatus doesn't like you, they'll happily take whatever flimsy pretext presents itself to ruin your day.

E.g. if they can get you for some silly "illegal landing" violation they will, if not they'll try to trump up some other charges.