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Re:The woes of Windows 10 by distantsounds on Thursday February 02, 2017 @02:49PM (#13553891)
You can remove just about all the tiles and extra bloat from the Start Menu, bringing on a more familiar return of what it used to be. Just right-click and 'remove' every tile until there's nothing left.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by marcosdumay on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:08PM (#13554670)
What you can't do, no matter what you try, is to make the Start Menu show all the programs you have installed.

But attaching things there is nice. Even better than the KDE menu.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by swozey on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:17PM (#13554732)
I can't get over this. It doesn't help that the search (start>type) constantly doesn't find apps I'm looking for. It's to the point where I'm pinning everything to my taskbar.

My workflow for a decade or more was to hit the Windows key then start typing to find indexed apps. It's almost useless to me now and I don't really get why.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by marcosdumay on Thursday February 02, 2017 @05:21PM (#13555409)
> I don't really get why

I got looking. It's an acknowledged bug. MS isn't even calling it a feature. It's just about as old as Windows 10, and unfixed.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by pzone on Thursday February 02, 2017 @06:30PM (#13556053)
I'm not what the point is, given there are probably hundreds of bugs that somebody would say "This is the #1 worst bug in Windows 10." But for me, this is the #1 worst bug in Windows 10.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by nikanj on Thursday February 02, 2017 @10:44PM (#13557495)
Assuming they're honest, and in their defence, MS has been much more honest and transparent recently: could you imagine being the one poor soul who's been working on that bug for almost two years now? People keep reporting that bug, and you keep ruling out possible explanations.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by marcosdumay on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:24AM (#13559075)
I've indeed seen that kind of thing happen, so yes, there can be some poor soul doing this. But it's still more likely that MS doesn't think Windows not letting you run your programs is a high priority problem.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by nitemice on Thursday February 02, 2017 @09:40PM (#13557205)
I've basically given up. I just use [Launchy](http://www.launchy.net/) instead.

Although it's discontinued, so I should really find a replacement.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by nolok on Thursday February 02, 2017 @05:40PM (#13555611)
Google "Classic Shell". It's a freeware, allowing you to replace your start menu with either a XP or a 7 like start menu.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by windows10rules on Thursday February 02, 2017 @07:52PM (#13556643)
'Member when windows did what you needed right out of the box?
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by Crosseye_Jack on Friday February 03, 2017 @05:11AM (#13558865)
Do you mean the "Show app list in Start Menu" Option?

I can't remember if its on or off by default (If its off then I switched it on long ago and can't remember) but on my setup with the option on (settings -> Personalization -> Start -> Show app list in Start Menu. Just in case it is turn off by default) I get a scrolling list on the left hand side of the start menu under "Most Used" (I have show recently added apps turned off) that feels like it behaves just like all programs has on <= 7 (Only briefly used 8 and I replaced its start menu with Classic Shell when I did) in that if during install you have the option to "add program to start menu" it appears in the start menu.

<EDIT> Here's a screen shot of what it looks like when I press the start button - http://i.imgur.com/0VdDm7v.jpg </EDIT>

Just like <= 7 (and presuming 8) its just a folder full of short cuts ("%programdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu") to the apps launchers/uninstallers/config/help/etc that you have installed.

What I do find annoying compared to <=7 is the ability to right click and just remove things from the list (perhaps its an option in group policies and I've just not found it, tbh I've not looked) without going to the folder I included above and deleting the shortcut.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by Pica_soO on Thursday February 02, 2017 @02:50PM (#13553908)
If i wanted to work to customize my OS, i would have Nuxed it.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by freehunter on Thursday February 02, 2017 @03:01PM (#13554033)
If you don't want to work to customize your OS, you accept the defaults. Those are your two options, and you've already ruled out one of them.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by khedoros1 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @07:31PM (#13556505)
Option 3: Use an OS (or at least OS version) that offers better defaults, while still running the software that you need.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by freehunter on Friday February 03, 2017 @04:19PM (#13563418)
Well then the OS that you're complaining about isn't exactly "your OS" is it? It's now someone else's OS and you're just complaining about something you don't even use.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by khedoros1 on Friday February 03, 2017 @09:03PM (#13565201)
You want to play word games? Fine.

Scenario: I'm using X 2.0. The defaults are shit, and I complain. Nothing happens. At this point, I've got three options. Deal with the shitty defaults, customize the OS, or move elsewhere.