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Re:Tesla sues ex-Autopilot director for taking proprietary i... by devwastaken on Friday January 27, 2017 @02:01AM (#13498235)
Being in a leadership role and saying to your team(s) "Hey, lets all take the knowledge we have that this company has paid massive amounts of money in prototypes and testing and overall business, and go start a new business selling the product."

Thats why anti-poaching is a thing. When you're investing into researching and creating products, you are investing in the people who do it, along with all the materials and contracting and such. Being able to take the experience of the results of all that and go sell a competing product is stealing and is a major blow to R&D.

I don't know the extent of the poaching, or whether its the same thing here, but in this case it was on company time, which is pretty bad.

Re:Tesla sues ex-Autopilot director for taking proprietary i... by leereeves on Friday January 27, 2017 @02:18AM (#13498286)
If someone takes R&D that the company paid massive amounts of money for, then the company can sue for theft of intellectual property, but people should be free to leave to start other ventures with any knowledge they have that isn't covered by IP laws. Even in groups, as they have right to freedom of association.

"Investing in the people who do [R&D]", then suing when they leave, is far too close to owning people.

Re:Tesla sues ex-Autopilot director for taking proprietary i... by AstralStorm on Friday January 27, 2017 @03:36AM (#13498500)
Not when he left. You can sue an ex employee for breach of contract when he was working there. For quite a few years.
Re:Tesla sues ex-Autopilot director for taking proprietary i... by leereeves on Friday January 27, 2017 @04:03AM (#13498591)
I was just discussing the general principle (in response to the preceding comment) and my opinion about what the law should be, not the merits of this specific case given current law.
Re:Tesla sues ex-Autopilot director for taking proprietary i... by solatic on Friday January 27, 2017 @05:11PM (#13503170)
And those products are intellectual property. The laboratories, prototypes, documentation, data, and parents are all proprietary and belong to the company, not the individual. All the individual can take with him is his experience and a sense of which direction he could pursue in the future.

That's not nothing, of course. But real products require all of the above in order to proceed to market, and all of the above takes a fairly long time for a company to build up, regardless of the experience of the people it hires, because the most those people can do is reduplicate their efforts without the mistakes, and even then pure reduplication is illegal because of parents etc.