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Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by mcv on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @06:49PM (#13422679)
This exactly. Governments do need to be held accountable for secret crimes, secrecy should not be allowed to enable continuing those crimes. Exposing them was necessary, even if it was illegal.

I do think Manning was naive and sloppy for handing the whole thing over to Assange, though in her defense, Assange seemed fairly reasonable and responsible at the time. It's only after this enormous leak that he seems to have gone mad with power.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by wallace_f on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:20PM (#13423456)
I can sleep a lot better tonight having read this thread of thoughts after some of the awfulness I just read over at reddit.

With this issue there is a remarkable degree of misinformation, as well as fascist ideology supporting the the surveillance state. These neverending, unechecked powers undermine civil rights and allow human rights abuses to go continue. And it's all wrapped in this package of 'a good liberal just supporting the good guys like Obama and Hillary that evil Assange is trying to destroy.' Assange is far from perfect, but I cannot understand how people do not fight back in solidarity with outrage against human and civil rights abuses.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by grandalf on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @10:54PM (#13423834)
> I cannot understand how people do not fight back in solidarity with outrage against human and civil rights abuses

I think there is a very sad aspect of human nature which makes humans bow before power.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by zemanel on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @03:30AM (#13424939)
It's called mortality :) people have X years to live and try to make the best of it and not everyone is ready to sacrifice that time for doing the right thing.
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by newbear on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:55PM (#13433134)
The simple fact that other people are unjustly suffering means that my mortality of x years is not the best. I think this alone should make everyone want to help make the world the best it can be. But empathy and love loses to selfishness and greed.
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by NotSammyHagar on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:45AM (#13424311)
Thank you for your comments. You have it exactly right, re-affirming my hope that the world is not doomed. Another example in line with what you said, having secret prisons that we kidnapped people and took them to and tortured them during the second bush war in Iraq hurt the US. It hurt because because we had secret prisons.