The Problem with AMP

Re:The Problem with AMP by rashkov on Monday January 16, 2017 @09:36PM (#13414760)

I get the frustration, but mobile sites in general also have this problem. "Request desktop site" should be a more prominent feature, at least in safari which is what I'm familiar with. It's quite buried unfortunately and I think that more non-techies would benefit from knowing about it.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by m-p-3 on Monday January 16, 2017 @11:33PM (#13415221)

And websites should honor the "Request desktop version" at all time. It's frustrating when you enable the option and it still bring up the mobile version.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by samat on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @05:02AM (#13416260)

That is responsive layout! Something people love

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Re:The Problem with AMP by NTripleOne on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:02AM (#13417064)

A poorly made responsive layout*

If it was any good, it would be showing the desktop scaling/layout/whatever instead of the mobile when 'show desktop version' is on.

It's also not always about being on a responsive sites, a lot of places still do a m.website.com redirect when visiting the main site from a mobile device, but with no backwards redirect when visiting the mobile site (which is almost certainly non-responsive, otherwise there'd be essentially no need for the m.* site) as a desktop client - so you hit 'show desktop version', the m.* page refreshes and you just get the mobile site with funny scaling.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by saurik on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:08AM (#13417594)

The website has no way of knowing you did that: this is actually Apple's fault for not changing the logical browser dimensions when you use this feature.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by macandcheese on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @12:34PM (#13419360)

Well, no, it's not - it's just weirdly labeled.

Request mobile site is really only applicable to the small amount of websites that serve a m.domain.com.

Now, they could have an option to "request desktop SIZE" that would result in sites that are responsively built rendering in "desktop size" mode.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by saurik on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @02:16PM (#13420240)

You can argue that any limitation is simply due to the feature being mislabeled, but in this case it seems pretty clear what people both expect this feature to do as currently named, and that happens to match what people also seem to want, and that would include changing the viewport to make certain you actually get the desktop site functionality.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by lmm on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @06:22AM (#13416602)

Mobile web browsers should just never allow a site to disable zoom. That would fix the main thing I end up requesting desktop site for.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by NTripleOne on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @07:58AM (#13417047)

That's an option in android chrome.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by ChrisClark on Monday January 16, 2017 @10:32PM (#13415009)

It's right on the main menu in Chrome on Android. A checkbox item on the menu, so you know you can turn it on and off. So at least it isn't that hidden, same level as the other main features.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by pryelluw on Monday January 16, 2017 @09:57PM (#13414852)

Firefox on Android does have this feature as well.

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Re:The Problem with AMP by zem on Monday January 16, 2017 @10:04PM (#13414879)

as does chrome on android

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