Easy XMPP: What are we doing here?

Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by Faaak on Monday January 16, 2017 @01:29PM (#13411853)

Except when you've got so many clients and so many servers that the typical user gives up instead

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by dsr_ on Monday January 16, 2017 @01:46PM (#13411941)

Email exists.

When Slack is bought by Google and merged with Hangouts, and WhatsApp changes over to a new all-messages-delivered-by-the-NSA protocol, email will still exist.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by OJFord on Monday January 16, 2017 @02:11PM (#13412139)

> When Slack is bought by Google and merged with Hangouts

Hah, Google, have multiple messaging systems and bother to merge them?

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by davecridland on Monday January 16, 2017 @03:07PM (#13412577)

And XMPP has always tried to be the email of IM. Similar model, address format, and so on. A sea of independent, autonomous domains openly connecting to each other.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by zokier on Monday January 16, 2017 @03:12PM (#13412613)

Snail mail too exists. And will exist for quite a while still. About as relevant for personal communications as email.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by bluesign on Monday January 16, 2017 @04:26PM (#13413170)

Email survived because it is adopted as main identity provider, similar for SMS

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by cyborgx7 on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @05:04AM (#13416268)

I've recently been thinking about xmpp making for a great federated identity provider for multiplayer video games. With communication already built in, initialization of peer-to-peer sessions already a common use-case, and the right XEPs it could replace centralized services like steamworks, psn or xbox-live.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by bdamm on Monday January 16, 2017 @01:53PM (#13411982)

And the web of trust still won't work.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by cdelsolar on Monday January 16, 2017 @01:51PM (#13411963)

Email that is delivered via a network of NSA-managed servers?

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by FabHK on Monday January 16, 2017 @01:40PM (#13411918)

particularly with the network effect.

It gets tiring to convince people to install Signal, Wire, etc.

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by Markoff on Monday January 16, 2017 @02:26PM (#13412259)

argument to install Signal is pretty easy - I just ask Android users if they use Facebook Messenger to manage SMS. if answer is negative I propose why not use different nice SMS client called Signal which can also do encrypted online instant messaging

though many people are just too lazy to replace even ugly default Messaging app, so wet just use it with my wife and parents since I boycott Messenger/Whatsapp, just in case for video calls I have Skype Mingo (it's sad that out of billion people in India it's difficult to find one person which would upload always newest build to apkmirror)

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by bigbugbag on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:10AM (#13416056)

That argument would not hold if someone knowledgeable is in the room as the same time[1]. Silence[2] would be the fork that actually does encrypted SMS and took it when Signal dropped it.

Why give away your SMS to a messaging app that purposely dropped their encryption to focus on online chat which is useless to me as I don't have a data plan?

[1]: https://whispersystems.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/ [2]: https://silence.im/

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Re:Easy XMPP: What are we doing here? by brandon272 on Monday January 16, 2017 @02:31PM (#13412287)

IMO, users in an organization engaging in debate and discussion about the best system based on the merits of the system to use is productive.

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