Re:Google reveals its servers all contain custom security si...
by amelius on Monday January 16, 2017 @11:03AM
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But if they don't own an IC fab, how do they know it is secure?
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Re:Google reveals its servers all contain custom security si...
by nickpsecurity on Monday January 16, 2017 @12:16PM
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They don't. Too many attack vectors. I illustrate here:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10468624
My solution was to print the TCB on a process node that was verifiable by eye. Then, verify a random sample of each batch. Possibly speed it up with image processing algorithms if producing the same component or components.
Note: Deviations from intended circuitry in deep sub-micron can have measurable differences at analog or RF level. DARPA is funding research to do such things. A monitor at visible node could then be combined with CPU's on cutting-edge node. Common practice in commercial sector is obfuscations, though.
Re:Google reveals its servers all contain custom security si...
by swegg on Monday January 16, 2017 @12:05PM
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Basically splitting the trusted circuit and testing the parts separately. This requires a trusted master circuit, but it can be arbitrarily small.
Re:Google reveals its servers all contain custom security si...
by amelius on Monday January 16, 2017 @12:35PM
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But what if the malicious code is time activated? (just an example)
Re:Google reveals its servers all contain custom security si...
by swegg on Monday January 16, 2017 @07:31PM
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This is actually addressed in the paper. Basically you can use testing to detect the timebomb, up to a negligible probability.
This paper is approachable, it's understandable without too much background if you're interested in the topic.