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Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by ivan_ah on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:05AM (#13318323)
Anyone interested in learning quantum mechanics should first learn/review their linear algebra. Understanding quantum states and quantum measurements is really not that complicated once you're comfortable with vectors and matrices.

Shameless plug: I wrote a linear algebra book that discusses applications to quantum mechanics, including quantum computing. Check out an extended preview here: https://minireference.com/static/excerpts/noBSguide2LA_previ... Available electronically here https://gum.co/noBSLA and the print version is coming soon.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by jobu on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @12:08PM (#13319982)
SMBC did a pretty interesting comic about quantum computing a few weeks ago: "The Talk" - http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-talk-3

It was a collaboration with Scott Aaronson ( http://scottaaronson.com/ ), so hopefully it's as accurate an intro to quantum computing as any webcomic could be.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by crazy2be on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:23PM (#13323099)
"Quantum computing and consciousness are both weird and therefore equivalent" -- Scott Aaronson
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by unit91 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @03:00PM (#13321540)
Looks like really solid work on the math end, with good explanations. If I may, the profanity seems gratuitous, however. Also, since a book recommendation is in part a reflection of the reader, it would be difficult to recommend this text to a colleague. Maybe something to consider.

ETA: reminds me of Tim Pope renaming Vim Foreplay to Vim Fireplace a few years ago. Apparently, that really helped him [1].

1. https://github.com/tpope/vim-foreplay

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by ivan_ah on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @06:46PM (#13323261)
Do you mean the title or the content of the book? I'm asking because I thought the main LA content is rather clean—the first book on MATH&PHYS had much more of the "juvenile" stuff. Also is bullshit really that bad? I never saw it as a swearword, but I guess it's borderline...

You're not the first to point out the limited recommendation potential. At the same time, I think the title is really what makes people stop and look in the first place. There are so many good math, physics, and LA textbooks out there, so it's important to stand out. I'm thinking I might release a PG13 version that cuts down on the edgy subjects, but I fear something will be lost in the process...

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by kayoone on Friday January 06, 2017 @04:01AM (#13334853)
I don't share ops sentiment. As a software developer studying math part time, the title really made me interested in the preview. Will buy :)
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by Analemma_ on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @01:12PM (#13320594)
N. David Mermin's "Quantum computer science: An introduction" is also a really good text for people with a CS background. It's a dead-tree book but I think the lecture notes he used to make the book are free online.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dangirsh on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @01:36PM (#13320840)
Agreed - I used Mermin's book in my undergrad. Not as comprehensive as Nielson and Chuang, but I love Mermin's style. The lecture notes you mentioned are here: http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/mermin/qcomp/CS483.html
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by themgt on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @02:46PM (#13321422)
I hate to be "that quantum consciousness guy", but one of the first sentences of the first lecture stood out to me: For a computer to be a quantum computer the physical systems that encode the individual bits must have no physical interactions whatever that are not under the complete control of the program.

What if we relaxed/paraphrased this as: For a biological system to be a mind the physical systems that underlie the mental substrate must have limited/circumscribed physical interactions that are not under the complete control of the mind.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stared on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @02:30PM (#13321291)
For anyone wanting to learn quantum mechanics, there is a list of resources and pointers: http://p.migdal.pl/2016/08/15/quantum-mechanics-for-high-sch... (I have been teaching it to... high-school students).

Yes, linear algebra (and complex numbers) are necessary. Though, complex numbers are fun on its own, and linear algebra is crucial for other cool things, e.g. artificial neural networks.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by sleekdesign on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:47PM (#13324831)
Ivan, thanks for writing this book on Linear Algebra. It's been a while since I took a course in it and your book looks perfect for a thorough review. I'm writing this as someone that loves mathematical rigor and intends to pursue a PhD in Computer Science. I'll read every chapter of this book and can't wait to get to the chapter on QM applications.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by GFK_of_xmaspast on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:26AM (#13318488)
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stOneskull on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:52AM (#13319237)
Just start learning quantum mechanics, I reckon.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dekhn on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:12AM (#13318856)
I think most people would say that functional analysis is the key to working comfortably in quantum, rather than linear algebra.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by krastanov on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:30AM (#13319032)
I am a PhD student in physics and I would definitely say that linear algebra is more important.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stOneskull on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:00AM (#13319317)
What should I learn if I'm interested in learning linear algebra?
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by _greim_ on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:35AM (#13319656)
3Blue1Brown has a great video intro series on the topic. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYO_jab_esuFRV4b17AJtAw/vid...
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stOneskull on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:50AM (#13326158)
terrific! thank you.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by elektropionir on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @12:06PM (#13319967)
I made notes some time ago that cover the linear algebra needed for Quantum Mechanics in some details and then go on to introduce basic QM at the end:

https://graybits.biz/notes/quantum_mechanics/preface

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stOneskull on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:52AM (#13326163)
cool stuff. thank you.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by krastanov on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:27AM (#13319582)
Your question is rather tautological... You can pick a text book or even an online tutorial.

Understanding diagonalization (and more generally, spectral theory), scalar products, and norms would be a great start. Then you can pick any quantum information textbook.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by jps359 on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:20AM (#13319517)
algebra?
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by groovy2shoes on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:29PM (#13329201)
But what should I learn if I'm interested in learning algebra?

N.B. My maturity level is normally only a half step above the average 12-year-old. I can play this game all day ;)

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by stOneskull on Saturday January 07, 2017 @09:11AM (#13344208)
hey! you got me ;)
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dekhn on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:38AM (#13319094)
My PhD is in biophysics. The Hamiltonion is a functional, pretty much all QM is application of Hamiltonians. I know both LA and FA; LA is basically introduction to FA.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by mathgenius on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:51AM (#13319231)
It really depends on the area. For quantum computing and quantum info theory it seems that mostly it is just linear algebra. The functional stuff is left for the really really clever people only (not me btw!)
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dekhn on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @12:23PM (#13320106)
The way you describe it sounds analogous to computers: like saying "you only need to know C, not transistor physics, to program a computer". You can code on an existing machine, port your code to a new machine, but you'll never invent a new machine or architecture.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by tgb on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @02:52PM (#13321461)
I think most would say that functional analysis is a generalization of linear algebra and that you absolutely need your linear algebra first. (Functional analysis is often thought of as infinite dimensional linear algebra.) Moreover, (finite dimensional) linear algebra is sufficient for learning theoretical quantum computing where there is a finite number of states.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dn2k on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:00AM (#13318744)
do u accept bitcoin for the digital version? is it DRM protected, can I lend it to a friend then?
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by ivan_ah on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:10AM (#13318834)
Not yet, but I'll be happy to get a wallet going to make this happen. Any recommendation for a good bitcoin wallet provider? I don't care about mobile app: web-only is good enough for me. Ideally fully offline.
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by kobeya on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:49AM (#13319794)
Green Address is really good:

greenaddress.it

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dn2k on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:12AM (#13318861)
I'd use electrum
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by dn2k on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @10:15AM (#13318891)
sending you an email
Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by mathgenius on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @09:58AM (#13318724)
That's so boring! I recommend people learn whatever they want, and then if needed go and read a maths book. Much more fun that way. (Btw, I don't mean to dis your book, it looks good to me.)

Edit: just to elaborate on this. I hear often from people "what math do i need to learn so i can do X?" And I just think that alot of the time people should just do X and this will force them to figure out the math as needed. Learning math from a book is brutally difficult! Just like learning a programming language, what is the best way to do that? You start with a project that you want to do. People who want to read the "pre-requisite book" often-times just seem to be deferring the real crunch that happens when you actually get down to the business of actually learning X.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by groovy2shoes on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:41PM (#13329333)
I'm reminded of the film "October Sky" where Jake Gyllenhaal's character (and I feel like a terrible nerd for not recalling the character, who is (was?) an actual NASA engineer, iirc), upon witnessing Sputnik-1 on a clear night, became obsessed with space flight and rocketry in particular. Got himself a bunch of really advanced texts on the subject and just powered through them, lazily learning the necessary math as needed, as you suggest. Once a poor student (bit of a slacker), he went on to make himself some rockets in relatively short order.

Excellent flick. If you haven't seen it, I recommend giving it a watch.

Re:Quantum computers ready to leap out of the lab in 2017 by Ar-Curunir on Wednesday January 04, 2017 @11:08AM (#13319387)
I can understand your approach. It helps to learn a topic (like linear algebra) when you can immediately see it's applications. However, I'm not sure it would work here; for one, quantum mechanics is not an "easily" understood application, like, say PCA, or DFT, or other such things.