Re:How a Machine Learns Prejudice
by atrendyguy on Monday January 02, 2017 @10:49PM
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Forcing non-optimal decisions based on an arbitrary notion of "fairness" will only weaken our institutions and breed resentment: "group A gets loan approval with a lower credit score than members of my group, what gives!?"
It also increases the fragility of the group you're trying to help by acclimating them to lower standards.
The success of Asian and Jewish people suggests that things can correct themselves over time. The law should stay out of it.
http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/asian-americans-lead...
http://www.zakkeith.com/articles%2Cblogs%2Cforums/anti-Chine...
They aren't inherent in green people, but you shouldn't give them loans anyway. Loans should be based on reality, not an ideal world that we don't live in. And certainly fairness has no basis in reality. It's a human concept.
Well, the proper response probably isn't to shoot yourself in the head and prevent yourself from knowing about the difference in default rates. It is entirely possible to figure out what is going on, to what extent, and then make an informed decision as to whether to continue. Avoiding discovering things, which is what all these asinine articles end up suggesting, is almost never a good idea for competent adults, and legally preventing people from discovering things is antithetical to a free society.
(quote by some guy named "oehead2000" on some other hacker news posting. It fit the context perfectly, so I am copying and pasting from his reply)
"Unfortunately whatever algorithm computers come up with to assess creditworthiness is going to be 'racist' by the broad disparate impact definition of racism that the government uses. Ironically, the algorithms will have to be made actually racist to correct for this."
Re:How a Machine Learns Prejudice
by andrewclunn on Monday January 02, 2017 @10:31PM
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Most significant variable. If green is a proxy for poor, which is in turn a proxy for risky mortgage loan, then the poor variable is the better point of discrimination.
The question you have to ask yourself is: is that fair? And what should the law say about it?