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Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by tdb7893 on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:48PM (#13303824)
I don't know. I've met tons of software engineers in the US that never work less than 45 hours a week in spite of having only 3 or 4 weeks of vacation a year. It seems kinda ridiculous to me
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by jazzyk on Monday January 02, 2017 @04:07PM (#13304535)
Yes, but they make 2x of what most engineers in Europe make (excluding Switzerland/London).

Blue-collar workers are screwed, though.

Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by thesmallestcat on Monday January 02, 2017 @05:41PM (#13305165)
From what I've seen, if it's not 2x London, it's close.
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by spost on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:52PM (#13303853)
Junior dev here, but 3-4 weeks of vacation would be an improvement over my current 15 days...
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by VLM on Monday January 02, 2017 @03:26PM (#13304167)
People are reacting rather violently to 15 days is three weeks, although it isn't. Its the standard two weeks plus 5 holidays, Memorial Day, 4th Jul, Labor, Thanksgiving, Christmas. That's 15 days.

In my youth I worked for a place that advertised 15 days very proudly as meaning two weeks salaried vacation plus a personal day (usually Friday after thanksgiving). After all if you're salaries at a 24x7 operational company, if you want a Saturday off with guaranteed no phone calls, you need to take vacation.

Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by d4adb33f on Monday January 02, 2017 @03:40PM (#13304295)
> After all if you're salaries at a 24x7 operational company, if you want a Saturday off with guaranteed no phone calls, you need to take vacation.

And people put up with this?

Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by mhurron on Monday January 02, 2017 @03:56PM (#13304450)
> People are reacting rather violently to 15 days is three weeks, although it isn't

That depends on how it's counted, it may be counted the way you are but it also might not be. For instance, the standard holidays that you list do not come out of my PTO pool, which is the number of days that I was told it was when I was hired. The result being I have those days plus those five, plus the day after Thanksgiving, as time off, I just don't get to pick when those last six days are used.

Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by webo on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:56PM (#13303889)
15 days is 3 weeks.
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by dasil003 on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:57PM (#13303903)
Isn't 15 days 3 weeks?
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by ozgkrc on Monday January 02, 2017 @03:11PM (#13304043)
Not necessarily. In my current industry if you don't work for maximum weekly work hours, saturday will be count as a work day if you literally work or not. So a week vacation is counted 6 days. Ps. Non-US
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by akoster on Monday January 02, 2017 @04:00PM (#13304481)
I formerly worked for an American subsidiary of a French company. When I told my friends that they gave every employee a minimum of 20 days off, their jaws dropped.
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by ap3 on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @01:16AM (#13307123)
Plus holidays?
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by drjesusphd on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:56PM (#13303897)
15 days is 3 weeks of vacation...
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by jrs235 on Monday January 02, 2017 @02:55PM (#13303888)
15 days is 3 weeks.
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by zadig on Monday January 02, 2017 @04:27PM (#13304689)
All this talk of 35 vs 45 hours a week makes me sad that medical residents are clocking 80 hours.
Re:Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy... by querulous on Monday January 02, 2017 @11:20PM (#13306695)
that's just the theoretical max. residents in almost every program except family and maybe radiology are 100+