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Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by xnull2guest on Saturday December 17, 2016 @04:12PM (#13202651)
I am American.

I am referring to the well known and well regarded Chinese policy of non-interference and non-intervention, and the Chinese leadership of UN Peacekeeping missions, as well as their lack of having been in a war with any external country for a very long time (and then their being the defenders in those wars).

Let me guess, you are American.

Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by truth_sentinell on Saturday December 17, 2016 @04:41PM (#13202820)
That's like saying your neighbour is peaceful and serene because he hasn't got in trouble with anyone in your neighbourhood, yet he beats his wife, is an alcoholic, etc..

Come on man, seriously? Tibet? rings a bell?

Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by tajen on Saturday December 17, 2016 @06:59PM (#13203487)
Well you could at least recognize his point. Tibet alone doesn't justify the joke of "We have proof that Saddam Hussein has WMD" at the UN. Let's count the number of deaths in Irak and Tibet, and if it's not enough let's measure the long-term effects of invading Tibet vs the jeopardization of the middle-east.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by FullMtlAlcoholc on Saturday December 17, 2016 @05:37PM (#13203113)
What China has done in Tibet is nothing compared to the misery wrought by the US to the near entirety of central and southern America.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by truth_sentinell on Saturday December 17, 2016 @05:57PM (#13203222)
I get it, but the discussion is about China, not the US. Please don't tu quoque.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by XiaomiFan on Saturday December 17, 2016 @05:48PM (#13203183)
Hi there, Chinese here. Perhaps you would be interested in learning about East Turkestan, or as we like to call it "XinJiang", or perhaps South Mongolia, or "Inner Mongolia".

Calling us out on Tibet is nice and all, but it does get so very boring.

If you are a CCP employee, please contact me to give me my 5角, cheers!

Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by Sanddancer on Saturday December 17, 2016 @07:53PM (#13203715)
What about the attempts to alter political discourse in Hong Kong, such as the Umbrella Revolution. How about their reaction to 零八宪章 (Charter 08)? Are those things we can criticize China on?
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by truth_sentinell on Saturday December 17, 2016 @06:02PM (#13203241)
What would be a nice search term to learn about it? Because I can't relate them all with China without having to read a lot.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by XiaomiFan on Saturday December 17, 2016 @07:30PM (#13203617)
Westerners like you is why we support our government.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by truth_sentinell on Saturday December 17, 2016 @08:44PM (#13203874)
I guess China's folks would be a hell of a control group for Stockholm syndrome. I can't really think of any reason in the rational realm why would somebody in their sane minds would support a government that doesn't even let you Google... [..]
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by justicezyx on Saturday December 17, 2016 @11:36PM (#13204357)
> why would somebody in their sane minds would support a government that doesn't even let you Google

As a matter of fact, people who can see your comment certainly would not support a government that do not let them use Google. But this group of Chinese people are tiny.

I guess at least 90% of Chinese citizens do not know Google.

So the problem is not that Chinese citizens like totalitarianism, the problem is that they do not see it as totalitarianism, or even think it's truly democratic. Like many people here believe that Trump is for the people and will be serving them faithfully (I am not saying that Trump will not do that, I am saying that it should not be taken as a thing that will happen for sure), which has to be the case if people can put Trump in check and hold him accountable.

But I don't know how to educate 1.3 billion people...

Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by truth_sentinell on Sunday December 18, 2016 @07:14AM (#13205518)
I can buy your comment for Chinese < 30 years old because they don't know anything better. But what about middle-aged Chinese? Don't they know the difference?

I don't know China history, but have they never lived in a democratic fashion at least in the last 50-60 years?

Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by lonfaris on Monday December 19, 2016 @01:43AM (#13209860)
The communist revolution in China was in 1945 so...no, they have not.
Re:The worrying implications of China's social-credit project by it_learnses on Saturday December 17, 2016 @08:14PM (#13203783)
Canadian. They attacked India twice, and they have been sending soldiers in to shift the borders over the recent few years. They have built artificial islands and calling international waters theirs and disputing over islands with their neighbors. Have you been following the news at all?

You may be an american citizen, but what are you ethnically? My guess was you were Chinese.