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Re:AirPods are now available by plainOldText on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @02:59PM (#13170351)
What are some of the things you hate about iOS 10? I've also disliked a few changes they've introduced, but after spending more time with the OS, I've discovered that some changes were not as bad as I'd initially considered. It was more a matter of getting used to.

I guess people don't like changes to the things they've grown accustomed to.

Re:AirPods are now available by jobu on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:27PM (#13170629)
There are a lot of small things that are making me hate iOS 10.

1) Unlock process: When the fingerprint reader fails it now takes several presses on the home key to get a keypad to pop up so I can input my code. With previous versions I could just swipe when I knew the fingerprint reader would fail (e.g. wet hands).

2) App updates: When apps are updating on my phone it decides it really wants to stay on the home screen. I can swipe to get to the other screens, but it goes back before I can tap any apps. Also, when I can get into an app they tend to lag and crash more when updates are happening in the background.

3) Control Center (bottom menu): Trying to slide the brightness or volume controls on the control center menus usually gets interpreted as a swipe to the next control menu. I have to be very precise when touching them for the sliders to actually work.

4) Safari: Auto-hide of the control buttons does help page visibility, but showing them seems to be glitchy as hell. They appear and then disappear before I can move my finger to tap them.

5) Crashes: At least daily now the whole phone crashes to a black screen and then comes back to the lock screen a few seconds later. Seems to involve location services.

Also, not exactly iOS 10, but the new Watch OS completely broke the usability of the Weather app for me. Something that was fairly intuitive and useful is now cumbersome and basically useless to me.

Re:AirPods are now available by ishields on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:38PM (#13171317)
I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who's been frustrated by iOS recently. Their user interactions have become so inconsistent and there are so many places (like control center) where simple tasks like pausing music playback have additional friction for really no reason. Why would they split it into 2 screens when one worked just fine? Why did they eliminate slide to unlock? (My conspiracy theory here is to upsell people new devices because the home button unlock is absolutely horrible to use on anything < iPhone 6s). There are lots of places where things are just downright much more difficult than they have to be. In the end, I switched to android after using iOS for the last ~5 (maybe more?) years and I have to say my phone actually feels smart again
Re:AirPods are now available by pfranz on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:06PM (#13171033)
Good news/bad news for 5. Try backing up and restoring. It's a huge pain and shouldn't be required, but it does tend to fix outlier issues.

A friend has a 16gb iPhone and has managed to deal with that little space until just recently. She'd run out of space completely, I'd hand-update apps one-at-a-time trying to free up temp download space. Deleted her local music. A few weeks later deleted her local photos. iMessage claimed 1gb of space, it's a little opaque and manual to clean delete things. I finally convinced her to delete all messages older than 1 year. She got 500mb back. The next day her phone was full again without an obvious reason. Backed up her phone and restored. Everything seems to be there and now she has 5+gb free.

I was having the battery issue they're fixing the 6s for. Because I knew they'd ask I restored my phone (and grabbed yesterdays update because that had a fix related to this, too). It seems to be fixed as well by restoring.

...but all of this is souring me on Apple. I wish I was more confident about other options.

Re:AirPods are now available by dep_b on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:39PM (#13171331)
You can clear out a lot of space by trying to download a huge movie from iTunes. Just trying is enough. It will first purge all accumulated cruft before telling you you still don't have enough space.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/out-of-space-on-your-iphone-try-...

Re:AirPods are now available by pfranz on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:11PM (#13172155)
Even though people disagree, what Apple does there makes sense to me. It's like all of my kind of tech savvy friends always complaining they're out of RAM. It gets freed when you need it. Having empty space does you no good, deleting caches prematurely wastes resources both deleting and regenerating it. It does suck not having an accurate count of how much free space you have when you're making sure you have space to download an app or take pictures for your trip. I think it's terrible for so long Apple only sold 16gb phones and the next size up was 64gb. They're also so stingy on iCloud space that most people I know can't keep an iCloud backup.

However, in my case had I tried this and it didn't work.

Re:AirPods are now available by x0x0 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:26PM (#13171757)
That is simultaneously really helpful (thanks for sharing) and an utter indictment of their software quality.
Re:AirPods are now available by ihuman on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:33PM (#13170693)
For 1, if I press home with finger that's not registered with TouchID, it immediately brings up the keyboard for a text password.

3 was allegedly fixed in iOS 10.2, which just came out.

Re:AirPods are now available by 542458 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:46PM (#13170816)
I also had your issue 5. I can't say for sure, but taking a fresh backup, then restoring from that backup seemed to have fixed it for me. Best of luck!
Re:AirPods are now available by oneplane on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:46PM (#13170821)
2 & 5 don't appear to be happening here, and 4 only seems to happen with the embedded browser view in some apps, not the 'normal' browser. At least, that's how it is for me.
Re:AirPods are now available by larrik on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:09PM (#13170467)
Not the OP, but I hate the 2-page swipe-up screen. I can't get used to it. Having so much real estate dedicated to crap like AirPlay, AirDrop and NightShift makes zero sense to me.

I'm not in love with "click to unlock" either, although the 7 makes it bearable with raise-to-wake (it's just stupid on my 6, though).

Re:AirPods are now available by plainOldText on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:21PM (#13170566)
There's an option for the home button under "Accessibility" called "Rest finger to open". Turn that on, and you'll be able to unlock your phone with no clicks. It probably doesn't work for non Touch ID phones.
Re:AirPods are now available by larrik on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:40PM (#13170766)
That sounds like the opposite of what I want. I find myself unlocking accidentally now (though less often than when I first upgraded).
Re:AirPods are now available by hsod on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:59PM (#13170938)
My lil complaint is that the "notification actions" are much less smooth then they were in iOS9. This is the feature where you can reply to a text or snooze an alarm or whatever directly in the drop-down notification while the phone is unlocked.

Also I've found that apple music CONSTANTLY loses my place if I pause my music for more than a couple minutes. This never used to happen with the old music app.

Re:AirPods are now available by cocktailpeanuts on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:09PM (#13171059)
This is exactly what I meant by apple pushing their own agenda instead of making user experience the priority.

They are pushing this new notification thing which is pretty out of touch with how people actually use the phone--they think interacting directly from the notification is how people want to use it, when most people feel claustrophobic and would rather see the whole thing before making any action--and because of this, it introduces another step for people who just want to open the app and do the damn work

Re:AirPods are now available by briandear on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @08:32PM (#13173051)
I am very interested how you know about "most people." Any data to back up your knowledge about what most people want or how they use their phones?

I like interacting with the notification instead of losing context to respond to some message.

Re:AirPods are now available by cocktailpeanuts on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:23PM (#13170597)
> I guess people don't like changes to the things they've grown accustomed to.

Trust me I used to be one of those people who would say the same thing you're saying. I was like "What's the big deal? These people just don't like change. They'll get used to it."

Except that you don't anymore.

The reason I hate these changes is because things just don't work smoothly and disrupt your workflow, not to mention the UI being messy design-wise (I have NEVER complained about Apple's design changes ever since the first iPhone).

And this is all because of the new features they introduced they're trying to shove down user's throats. Most of these features are built to satisfy Apple's agenda instead of making it easier for users to use. Just read what others have already said, these are features built for Apple, not for users.

Re:AirPods are now available by nicky0 on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @02:25AM (#13174427)
What is "Apple's agenda"? It seems to me you just dislike the changes (which is fair) and are dressing up your dislike as a conspiracy theory. Have you considered that the designers simply thought they were making it better?
Re:AirPods are now available by kkoomi on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:53PM (#13170885)
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade! They must make changes to make progress.
Re:AirPods are now available by cocktailpeanuts on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:18PM (#13171133)
Yes they are. Apple forces you to upgrade all the time. They keep sending push notifications until you find the option hidden somewhere in the settings and turn it off.

You're assuming all changes are progress. They are not.

Re:AirPods are now available by throwanem on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:29PM (#13171243)
How the hell do you turn that off? I'd love to know, because I'm not going to upgrade to iOS 10 until I'm sure it won't hose my phone, and I'm sick and tired of being bothered about it twice a day.
Re:AirPods are now available by cocktailpeanuts on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:57PM (#13171496)
Re:AirPods are now available by throwanem on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:12PM (#13171619)
Perhaps, considering that I don't recall having ever had Automatic Updates turned on, and yet my phone had downloaded 10.1.something and was nagging me about installing it. (Automatic Updates already wasn't turned on when I followed the steps to disable it.) Deleting the update from the storage UI is a piece I hadn't previously run across, and I've gone ahead and done it.

I'm now seeing the 10.2 update available, but it hasn't (yet) been downloaded; if a day goes by and it still isn't, then I'd have to say I owe you a beer, or several, for pointing me at a way to relieve what was getting to be a real pain in the neck. (Although why I failed to find this clue for myself is a curious question in its own right - it's certainly not for want of looking! In any case, I greatly appreciate you taking the time to point it out.)

Re:AirPods are now available by throwanem on Wednesday December 14, 2016 @07:54AM (#13175596)
Update: Looks like I owe you a beer, or your preferred alternative beverage! The email address in my profile is a good place to send details of how I may remit the requisite funds; or, if you're in the Baltimore area and want to pick a bar, a day, and a time, I'm good with that too. (Preferably not Fells, though; crowds of drunk twentysomethings and the occasional mugger aren't really my idea of a good time.)

Thanks again! That was really getting on my nerves.

Re:AirPods are now available by Daneel_ on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:20PM (#13171701)
It's not really a proper solution as it kills app updates. (In a nutshell, the article advises disabling automatic updates)

So yes, ridiculous..

Re:AirPods are now available by throwanem on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:43PM (#13171924)
Having long since ceased to trust automatic app updates in any case (cf. Uber location awareness creep and YouTube's perennial UI brokenness du jour), I see no problem there.

On the other hand, I'm increasingly sure I have never had automatic updates enabled on this device, yet I had the iOS 10 update downloaded regardless. Perhaps I forgot having done that by hand, or perhaps the setting doesn't apply to OS updates; in any case, time will tell.

Re:AirPods are now available by tomatoman on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:00PM (#13170955)
laptops break, eventually you will have to
Re:AirPods are now available by kkoomi on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @04:02PM (#13170982)
Laptops especially can use older versions of OS, easier than iOS
Re:AirPods are now available by jodrellblank on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @06:10PM (#13172149)
The things mentioned by other people - message notification lag, stupid slidy cards for brightness and volume, lockscreen press home button to jump through hoop. Also

- Photos. Wtf is the distinction between 'photos' and 'albums'. Why does Photos pretend to be a chronological hierarchy of Year -> Month -> Day but then drop to Tumblr style 'related' links, while Memories contain your grouped photos in any order, but so does Albums. Albums also try to dynamically group things by 'location' and 'selfies' and 'video' and 'camera roll'. Oh, they're all showing the same thing - the last thing I recorded? Useful. It's a complete mess and super frustrating to use.

- The changes to take and send photos in iMessage. Used to be that taking a photo meant pressing and holding the photo button, sliding up to take a video. Now it's more steps, and the camera shutter button is awkwardly at the bottom of the screen, then there's another slider to the left to reveal another camera button, to switch to the camera app, to take a video. More steps for everything, which also displaces 'insert a previously taken photo'. Who benefits?

- Video editing (trim) was glitchy in iOS9 and still is in iOS 10. Seriously, take photo, play with trim, randomly the video stops changing with the slider position, then the screen goes black, have to task-end the Photos app and try again. Video playback in Safari, also glitchy - pause somewhere, or skip forwards, get it playing from the start at 10x framerate (or more) with no audio, to 'catch up' to the new seek location. Seeking is still fiddly and often doesn't work well.

- Still need to care about WiFi vs. Cellular because "we changed our App icon to a Christmas one" still means tens or hundreds of download.

Re:AirPods are now available by DigitalJack on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @03:11PM (#13170482)
I hate the apple apps. People have loved to hate Apple apps for years but I've been ok with them.

However, more and more I'm running into things that are just stupid or buggy or both.

The TV app is the latest annoyance. All our purchases are under my wife's account, and there seems to be no way to view family sharing purchases with the app.

I'm using a beta of iOS and I keep hoping it'll be added, but this is the seventh beta I think, and I've pretty much given up.

Re:AirPods are now available by swang on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:18PM (#13171681)
im using the previous version of ios 10 (one before current) and it has some weird battery draining bug and will shut off my iphone 6 plus at 30% and it's very hard to repower on without a charge source (e.g. ext charging battery). it also drains my battery heavily.

the current version supposedly fixes the battery drain (not sure about the shutdown bug) but introduced a bug into another app that i use and don't want to risk upgrading for either.

and this is the problem. apple charges premium prices but their software has gotten sloppy. macos and ios10 included. i upgraded to the latest macos version, sierra, and my escape key would not work for some reason (i was using vim and ended up doing ctrl-c? to activate) then i find out that killing siri on mac would fix the problem. then i found out a couple days later that their new macbook pro would not have an escape key. gee i wonder why they never caught this bug in testing?

Re:AirPods are now available by x0x0 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:32PM (#13171823)
Yeah, Apple has turned into shit.

Brand new mbp on 10.11.6. Opening new tabs in safari then cmd-L to put focus in the location bar would beachball safari for multiple seconds.

The solution after much debugging was to disable com.apple.imklaunchagent

These lazy engineers really should be ashamed of themselves. This was an out of box install on a brand new laptop on their browser with minimal 3rd party software installed (chrome, brew, intellij, but nothing that should interfere with the os.) I wasted 5 free hours trying to make the damn browser work.

Re:AirPods are now available by inh3 on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @05:27PM (#13171760)
My phone is showing the same battery and shut off issues. Your phone might be one of the ones Apple has identified as having issues.

Check here: https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/

I checked there and my phone is eligible for the battery replacement.

Re:AirPods are now available by swang on Tuesday December 13, 2016 @09:27PM (#13173322)
thanks for this. i don't have a 6s. either that or it thinks i've already had a battery replacement. which could be true? this is my third 6 plus.

my original's lcd screen had the touch disease, since it was just inside warranty they "replaced" it by just giving me a new phone.

the replacement died within a week. serious wtf. so i went in and got yet another one.

this one has been fine, mostly. but i'm probably not going to get a iphone for my next device. not saying no other devices do this but that touch disease should be fixed even if you're outside warranty and not be charged with the $329 it cost. my original phone was susceptible to it and only by sheer "luck" did it happen within my warranty.