Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by kristofferR on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:02PM
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You can't argue that it's a weird idea to ban something you can't even define, even as a one week experiment.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by dang on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:31PM
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Perhaps we're using the word "experiment" differently. I don't mean a controlled experiment, I mean making a change for a little while to see what happens. One doesn't need a precise definition to do that. In fact, if we had one it would have been useless, because in complex social systems like HN such information doesn't transmit. People would have flagged whatever they thought of as 'politics', no matter what we said. Which is what they did.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by kristofferR on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:35PM
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But you've gotta have realised that a lot of non-problematic content about politics, like this story, would get flagged unnecessarily, then?
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by dang on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:42PM
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I won't say it didn't cross my mind. But if you're arguing that everything should have been obvious, that was far from the case. People have very different, shockingly different, way-more-different-than-you'd-expect assumptions about things that seem obvious to you (i.e. any one of us); since our job is to serve the community as a whole, we can't just go by our own. It's a constant struggle.
HN is large enough that if the outcome had been wildly different, other users would be thinking that had been obvious all along, and telling us so.
Keep in mind that the important question was how the community would react, and complex social systems aren't straightforwardly predictable. I've been working with HN for years now, and a participant for years before that, and much of it remains counterintuitive to me.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by jdavis703 on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:36PM
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We're supposed to be a community of hackers. Why can't we try weird and crazy ideas?
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by ceejayoz on Thursday December 08, 2016 @04:40PM
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> Why can't we try weird and crazy ideas?
There's still the "should I really stick this knife in that electrical socket?" evaluation that should take place with weird/crazy ideas, though.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Curbs Excessive Design Patent Damages
by kristofferR on Thursday December 08, 2016 @12:44PM
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It's a good idea to think through ideas before attempting them.
This experiment was like asking people to flag "news", and getting surprised that people were flagging tech news, when they really wanted to avoid crime news.
If it were simply a matter of being told, I could have just told myself, since I've made that argument myself on HN for years. But the point was to try the idea for a little while and see what happened. Now we have actual experience to point to.