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Re:Pebble's next step by mikestew on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @12:32PM (#13124317)
I don't want to hit a person while they're down (in the dumps about their "purchase"), but going to Kickstarter for version 3 was my sign to give it a rest on buying Pebbles. Maybe it was just marketing, but it caused me to wonder "have you not made enough profit to support rolling out your third version without outside backing?" If it finally hit retail, great, I might get one then. But in the meantime I bought a Garmin Fenix instead of financing someone else's manufacturing interest-free.

Pebble wasn't aiming for market dominance, they were aiming for market traction. How many Pebbles do you see in the wild? Now, how many Apple Watches do you see? How many Garmins? FitBits? "Notifications" is the baseline these days. It's just a given if I buy a fancy electronic watch. So where does that put Pebble? Having the same notification functionality as other devices, only not as slick and more cheap looking. Oh, Pebble has fitness stuff now? Have fun going up against Garmin and FitBit. As more and more devices gain the functionality that defined Pebble, Pebble went from the leader in this segment to playing catch-up.

Sometimes I think there is a secret cabal conspiring so we can't have nice things ;-).

Of course you know better. :-) Pebble sold you a device, everyone else sells you an ecosystem. All the fitness add-ons in the world won't make a difference if there isn't some form of analysis and data storage behind it. I can go back to stuff my Garmins have recorded over a decade ago. FitBit's got something similar, Nike (back when they made hardware), and others I've missed. Apple and Android watches tie into their respective systems for more functionality than just notifications on your wrist. Nope, no cabal, the market just moved on and Pebble got left behind. We do have nice things, they just don't have "Pebble" silkscreened on them now.

Re:Pebble's next step by whywhywhywhy on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @03:27PM (#13125908)
>How many Pebbles do you see in the wild? Now, how many Apple Watches do you see?

Almost the same number for me. That said I barely see any Apple watches and most people I know who bought them have left them in the bedside drawer long ago

Re:Pebble's next step by tdkl on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @03:31PM (#13125947)
I always said that sport watches will become smarter sooner then smart watches sportier.
Re:Pebble's next step by mikestew on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @04:31PM (#13126402)
Because sometimes an up vote isn't enough: I have nothing more to add other than complimenting you on a very insightful comment that said in one sentence what has taken me paragraphs.
Re:Pebble's next step by taneq on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @09:35PM (#13127988)
Totally this. Kickstarter is for, well, kick-starting things. It's not meant to be a business model. If you're already a million-dollar company, and you can't bring a new revision of your product to market without crowdsourced funding, maybe you're not doing it right.

> Pebble sold you a device, everyone else sells you an ecosystem.

Pebble actually had the full ecosystem going, app store, online integration, accessories, the whole hog. So much so that (for me at least) it was actually a /bad/ thing. I don't want my smartwatch to be a portal into web services and a means of datamining my life. I don't want a subscription to a watch service. I just want it to be a watch that I can program and that can talk to my phone.

Re:Pebble's next step by delecti on Wednesday December 07, 2016 @03:16PM (#13125816)
> have you not made enough profit to support rolling out your third version without outside backing

I interpreted it more as a way to build hype around pre-orders for something that wouldn't come out for a while. In light of them going under, your explanation seems to gain some support, but I still wonder if they were also using Kickstarter as a hype builder and pre-order managment system.