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Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by dominotw on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:04PM (#13073015)
>you know how simple, useful, and powerful the Alexa-powered interaction model can be.

This is so comical. Alexa is phenomenally bad at conversation, it is so bad that there are almost no successful "apps" built around it despite having an API and app platform.

Alexa is decent at single command/action model nothing more than that.

Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by ghaff on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:41PM (#13073406)
In a way, this is a good step toward people writing applications that are good conversationally. Alexa does a good job of voice recognition but I agree that "conversations" are mostly about remembering the right wizard's incantation to make Alexa do something useful. Watching the (very simplified) demo, it's easy to see the seed of writing a useful digital assistant/Star Trek computer there but obviously someone(s) have a whole lot of work to do before we get anywhere near there.
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by chishaku on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:08PM (#13073059)
What are the best alternatives?
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by sgwealti on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:40PM (#13073385)
The "Ok Google/Google Now" voice interactivity (or whatever the official name is) on Android phones is much better than Amazon's Alexa/Echo. It actually remembers context from sentence to sentence so you can say "What is the population of Chicago" and it will answer. Then you can say, "How long would it take me to drive there?" And it understands that you are still talking about Chicago.

Every interaction with Alexa is command, response, and that really limits what you can do with it.

Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by jon-wood on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @02:55PM (#13074100)
There's nothing about Alexa's API that would prevent doing that, it already has the concept of a conversation and I think we'll see raid improvement in how people make use of that.
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by sgwealti on Thursday December 01, 2016 @03:27PM (#13083196)
I agree. I'm just surprised that none of the base functions provided by Amazon take advantage of it. Compered to google it feels really basic and limited. I saw this as the owner of two Alexa's who uses them a lot. I'm constantly frustrated by the limitations even though it works well for certain things.
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by dominotw on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:26PM (#13073236)
something that doesn't make me say this really long sentence to access the app

'Alexa tell app X to start my car'

Something that supports actual conversation which means not having the user respond immediately . For example its impossible to build a cooking app that walks me through the recipe because 'conversation' is over within X seconds. Of course you could do weird hacks like maintaining conversation on the server side based on sessionid, but that still requires user to constantly prefix their conversations with 'tell app X ..'

These basic UX limitations make it impossible to build any serious application that can do more than 'joke of the day' type of stuff. All the apps in alexa app store are totally useless 'fart noise of the day' type of garbage.

Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by dastbe on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:45PM (#13073447)
I think that's a product vs platform issue, especially having to prefix everything with the application. since you are building your own product, you get to avoid the routing problem entirely.
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by jp8000 on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @03:17PM (#13074310)
Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by digital_ins on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @07:40PM (#13076030)
This, for travel, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_kw_vlCpcw

Disclosure: I work at the co that builds this

Re:Amazon Lex – Build Conversational Voice and Text Interfaces by eva1984 on Wednesday November 30, 2016 @01:12PM (#13073096)
This is an open question