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Re:MIT Values by wyclif on Sunday November 27, 2016 @11:03PM (#13053328)
Why does MIT feel the need to hold forth on this? It sounds a lot like the SJW posturing you see at second- and third-tier public universities and state colleges.

This statement seems a bit below MIT. They should take the high ground, above petty Presidential-cycle politics. Science and all that.

Re:MIT Values by hooph00p on Sunday November 27, 2016 @11:19PM (#13053381)
> SJW posturing you see at second- and third-tier

It's been difficult to take anyone seriously that has a problem with people they label as "Social Justice Warriors". Also, this isn't the sort of rhetoric I enjoy seeing on HN.

It's important to note that they also specifically called out the President-Elect for his Climate-Denying statements.

Him being racist – and a denier – make this incredibly important.

Why is this important? They are in a position of scientific authority, and they are opposing a position of government authority. He is incorrect, he is ascending to power, and this sets their authority against his authority.

This is about who you trust for your information and who will help shape your opinion. An esteemed educational institution, or a racist demagogue? Sounds to me like you've already made your choice.

Re:MIT Values by wyclif on Sunday November 27, 2016 @11:41PM (#13053456)
You mean I chose MIT. I didn't vote for Trump; I'm not even in the US. And even though I think Trump is a crackpot, I'd rather keep HN on tech, science, and programming. Same with MIT.

this isn't the sort of rhetoric I enjoy seeing on HN

Conversely, I don't enjoy seeing social justice rhetoric on HN. I come here for the tech, startup, and programming news and commentary. So I suppose we're even. The fact that you mistakenly read my view as pro-Trump only highlights the dangers of this kind of content on HN.

Re:MIT Values by hooph00p on Monday November 28, 2016 @09:07AM (#13055452)
Gas lighting doesn't change the tone of your rhetoric. Drawing conclusions from what you said isn't a big stretch, given that you were dismissive, and clearly invested in the scientific portion of the MIT statement:

> Science and all that

Really sounds like you chose MIT. You know there's a part in there where they acknowledge climate change? That's pretty important.

> Social Justice Rhetoric on HN.

Again, really hard to take you seriously.

Re:MIT Values by wyclif on Monday November 28, 2016 @08:49PM (#13060052)
You engaged in standard read-in to my comment, not even trying to understand what was meant. You say that "it's hard to take you seriously", yet the HN guidelines are clearly on my side of this issue.
Re:MIT Values by lwhalen on Monday November 28, 2016 @11:34AM (#13056466)
I also dislike the increasing SJW content on HN. Leave that stuff to the Tumblrinas, I want my tech news back.
Re:MIT Values by grzm on Monday November 28, 2016 @11:44AM (#13056552)
You're right: HN isn't supposed to have so much political content. It's even included in the guidelines.

Help be part of the solution. Flag politically charged articles. Strip political speech from your comments. Call out in a non-partisan way comments that are injecting politics needlessly into the conversation. Submit and up vote tech articles you find interesting.

Re:MIT Values by tinalumfoil on Sunday November 27, 2016 @11:12PM (#13053361)
People like to express their opinions and be heard. If each of these faculty went on HN or reddit or the streets and said "I don't like Donald Trump" nobody would care. However as a collective force people will care enough to open the link and skim through the text. Maybe if they get enough people they'll get a small segment on CNN's morning show.