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Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by bambax on Friday November 25, 2016 @12:47PM (#13038465)
Yes, but the problem is they are still actively encouraging so-called "private label" items.

I became a seller on Amazon two months ago, because I'm developing new (unique) products and I thought it would be simpler to have them distributed by Amazon.

But making said products is taking much longer than anticipated, so in the meantime, and as a learning process, I started selling one product in "private label" mode (ie, a product that I buy "as is" from a Chinese factory, with my brand printed on it). It's kind of selling, although the competition makes it hard/impossible to turn any profit (since all products are virtually identical, competition is on price and maybe listing quality/exhaustivity).

But what is amazing to me is that a service called "Amazon coach" regularly sends emails to encourage me to sell more PL products. Today, Amazon coach recommends selling a meat tenderizer on amazon.de: there are already over 350 different listings for meat tenderizers on amazon.de, how many more do they need???

Some time ago I used to regard the "ships from Amazon" or "Prime" logo as markers for quality, because I figured, somehow, that Amazon did some kind of vetting before accepting a product for shipping. That's completely wrong. The sign only means that the product is stored in their warehouse (and will therefore probably be delivered on time); but it has no meaning whatsoever regarding the quality of the product. There is zero curation.

Selling on Amazon is teaching me to trust Amazon less.

And of course, the ocean of similar products makes shopping much harder; meat tenderizers are not the worst case by far: if you're looking for a corkscrew in the Home & Kitchen category, you're looking at 2,500+ options on amazon.de alone... and 16,000+ on amazon.com!! Crazy.

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by mbrookes on Friday November 25, 2016 @02:17PM (#13039142)
> I used to regard the "ships from Amazon" or "Prime" logo as markers for quality

You need to look for (or limit your search to ) "Sold by Amazon". Not so say that Amazon doesn't sell some duff products, and they have some "private label" products of their own (Amazon Basics), but all of those will have had some degree of vetting.

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by danudey on Friday November 25, 2016 @03:17PM (#13039529)
Even Apple power adapters sold by Amazon and not by a third party are 90% fake:

https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/19/amazon-fake-apple-chargers-ca...

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by nitrogen on Friday November 25, 2016 @04:04PM (#13039812)
Does Amazon commingle third-party stock with their own, or are their vendors selling them fake chargers?

When I was looking at selling my creations on Amazon, they had an option to commingle stock with other sellers of the same item, but I don't know if that includes Amazon's own stock.

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by massysett on Friday November 25, 2016 @04:39PM (#13040049)
Yes. They have a webpage somewhere describing this. They do not commingle select categories, such as food. Everything else is fair game for commingling. Sold By Amazon is no guarantee of authenticity or even an indicator that your product came through a legitimate supply chain.
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by x0x0 on Friday November 25, 2016 @10:46PM (#13041621)
Amazon will happily continue selling Aukey chargers with fake ETL (UL Labs competitor) marks, even after I notified them of this! You just can't trust amazon for electronics.

Link to my original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12832605

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by shiven on Friday November 25, 2016 @02:57PM (#13039407)
This. Only if the product is "Shipped from and Sold by Amazon.com" is there a good chance I will buy it. Even at 1.5-2x the lowest price from other vendors (FBA, direct shippers etc.). I'd rather trust Amazon directly than anyone else on amazon.com
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by ryanhuff on Friday November 25, 2016 @04:15PM (#13039884)
You certainly pay for that trust. Last week, I found a product that I bought on Amazon was available locally for 11% cheaper. Fast forward to today, I was about to buy something else on Amazon (prime item sold by 3rd party), and decided to check eBay. The manufacturer was selling the item direct on eBay for 30% less. Amazon does provide a lot of protection value to the buyer, but its previous value proposition (save by ordering online), doesn't seem to apply any longer.
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by uberrr on Friday November 25, 2016 @04:52PM (#13040125)
I have found that it's always worthwhile to check eBay before making an Amazon purchase.
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by Peretus on Friday November 25, 2016 @07:31PM (#13040964)
It's true that they will have some vetting-- All products that Amazon sells itself are evaluated through becoming a seller through Vendor Central. Just because a product is labeled as 'Ships from and sold by Amazon' does not mean that it's not a private label product; Vendor Express is available for exactly the purpose of getting vendors to sell directly to Amazon. I am a mid-volume seller on their platform and I probably see 2-3 offers a week from them encouraging me to list my products with them.

Another trick for the best price is to not always go with the buy box by default. Amazon doesn't give up the buy box unless the competitor's price is significantly lower than theirs. It's always worth taking a look at what else is listed in the 'Other sellers' box, especially on products where Amazon is the vendor. It's likely their the cheapest, but that's not always the case.

Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by notyourwork on Friday November 25, 2016 @09:42PM (#13041398)
This is reminding me of the last few years I used ebay. At first it was great, and by the end I was constantly worried about quality.
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by nommm-nommm on Saturday November 26, 2016 @12:04PM (#13044612)
The quality listings are easy to find on eBay though and impossible to find on Amazon. eBay still has a lot of quality.
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by cptskippy on Saturday November 26, 2016 @08:56PM (#13047276)
Care to elaborate?
Re:Amazon makes good on its promise to delete “incentivized”... by flippyhead on Friday November 25, 2016 @01:31PM (#13038834)
This has been very enlightening. I buy a ton of stuff on Amazon and have had the same incorrect assumptions.