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Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by Taek on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @05:53PM (#12915639)
That I think is a huge problem in our government. Why can't I vote for both smaller military and bigger NASA at the same time?

Why when I decide climate change is super important do I also have to align with 15 other unrelated policies as well?

Parties are all-or-nothing and that's painful. Because I find that no party represents me in more than like 20% of my political positions.

I should be able to delegate better.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by laksjd on Thursday November 10, 2016 @04:02AM (#12918830)
I'm sorry to say this but your country uses an outdated, deprecated implementation of Democracy. While we respect it greatly for its historical value as one of the first stable implementations, it is no longer recommended for production environments due to its many known critical bugs, most famously the first-past-the-post issue in its election algorithm.

Instead we'd recommend one of the European-republic forks (E.g. Germany's federalism 2.0) or, if you're feeling adventurous, one of the smaller forks like 'Direct Democracy' or the nordic-style forks.

Please note that those newer implementations have significantly higher system requirements, usually calling for a well educated population that is willing to debate and compromise rationally.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by lentil_soup on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:38AM (#12919272)
how is Germany's system better in that regard? I still can't cherry pick policies, it is still all or nothing as far as I am aware, no?
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by LeanderK on Thursday November 10, 2016 @07:19AM (#12919769)
there are more realistic choices (left, left/green, far left, conservative (but very centrist, even sometimes a bit left-leaning), liberal (unfortunately economic-liberal) and idiots), also if you don't vote for a mainstream party there is a real chance that they might make it (threshold is 5%). In the last years we saw more political experiments in the form of new parties. On local elections there is even more choice, depending on the state. It's still not electing policies, but there is one party proposing such a plan (pirates).
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by losteric on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @08:45PM (#12916949)
I don't know your specific situation, but HN folks tend towards "Money-rich time-poor"... so, donate to 3rd party candidates. 3rd party candidates have enough grass roots support to get started but many struggle with getting funding to get visibility.

Not just $5 here or $20 there. Donate to match your desire for a better future.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by jlarocco on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @06:35PM (#12916011)
That's a self-imposed problem. There were 22 choices for president on my ballot. Until people wake up and start looking at the other 20 parties the current system is what we get.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by ethbro on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @06:55PM (#12916196)
It's an electoral system problem. From a game theory standpoint there is no reason to ever vote third party.

If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive... pretty sure Johnson would have won.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by BrandonM on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:20AM (#12918156)
I'm hoping that Maine's Ranked Choice Voting[0] (instant runoff) is an answer to some of the problems inherent in our current winner-take-all system. It passed in Maine; hopefully it achieves its aims and spreads.

[0] http://www.rcvmaine.com/

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by ComputerGuru on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @08:14PM (#12916749)
..and there were only four on mine. I wrote in pretty much the only write-in candidate (write-ins must still be approved with the state or else they're tossed away) - and I was one of only a handful to do so.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @07:23PM (#12916397)
"If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive..."

We must prove that something which may be more complex than our current system is still just as fair (or more fair).

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by Taek on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @08:53PM (#12916991)
There are some simple changes which make pretty well understood improvements.

For example rank voting. You rank the candidates when you vote. When counting, you count all the votes for each candidate. You eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes. Everyone who had that candidate as a first choice reallocates their votes to their second choice. Repeat until there's a winner.

Suddenly it's okay to vote for that third party, because through rank voting you can ensure that your third party vote does not end up propping up the candidate you like the least.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Thursday November 10, 2016 @12:39AM (#12918033)
That's genius! As it stands, if I were to vote for a 3rd party candidate then I'm essentially throwing away my vote. However, if what you suggest were in place then the risk of a meaningless vote is vastly decreased, essentially eliminated.

Why isn't it used today?

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:30AM (#12919238)
Can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting_system

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:33AM (#12919256)
Because the people with the power to change it aren't so keen on doing so, I'd guess.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:40AM (#12936920)
That inevitably supposes that there are a group of individuals with the power to change the voting system.

Does such a group exist?

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by adinobro on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:33AM (#12918196)
That is almost exactly how it works in Australia.

You can either rank the vote manually or vote for a party and they get to pick how the vote is ranked between all the candidates.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @07:52PM (#12916607)
Running simulations on voting systems is easy.

Also lots of countries have preferential voting systems. Lots of people in AU don't vote for the major parties.

The US system is just crazy.