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Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by jlarocco on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @06:35PM (#12916011)
That's a self-imposed problem. There were 22 choices for president on my ballot. Until people wake up and start looking at the other 20 parties the current system is what we get.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by ethbro on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @06:55PM (#12916196)
It's an electoral system problem. From a game theory standpoint there is no reason to ever vote third party.

If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive... pretty sure Johnson would have won.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by BrandonM on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:20AM (#12918156)
I'm hoping that Maine's Ranked Choice Voting[0] (instant runoff) is an answer to some of the problems inherent in our current winner-take-all system. It passed in Maine; hopefully it achieves its aims and spreads.

[0] http://www.rcvmaine.com/

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by ComputerGuru on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @08:14PM (#12916749)
..and there were only four on mine. I wrote in pretty much the only write-in candidate (write-ins must still be approved with the state or else they're tossed away) - and I was one of only a handful to do so.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @07:23PM (#12916397)
"If we'd had a more nuanced system that allowed voting negative in addition to positive..."

We must prove that something which may be more complex than our current system is still just as fair (or more fair).

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by Taek on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @08:53PM (#12916991)
There are some simple changes which make pretty well understood improvements.

For example rank voting. You rank the candidates when you vote. When counting, you count all the votes for each candidate. You eliminate the candidate with the fewest votes. Everyone who had that candidate as a first choice reallocates their votes to their second choice. Repeat until there's a winner.

Suddenly it's okay to vote for that third party, because through rank voting you can ensure that your third party vote does not end up propping up the candidate you like the least.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Thursday November 10, 2016 @12:39AM (#12918033)
That's genius! As it stands, if I were to vote for a 3rd party candidate then I'm essentially throwing away my vote. However, if what you suggest were in place then the risk of a meaningless vote is vastly decreased, essentially eliminated.

Why isn't it used today?

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:30AM (#12919238)
Can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting_system

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 75j on Thursday November 10, 2016 @05:33AM (#12919256)
Because the people with the power to change it aren't so keen on doing so, I'd guess.
Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by spynxic on Saturday November 12, 2016 @01:40AM (#12936920)
That inevitably supposes that there are a group of individuals with the power to change the voting system.

Does such a group exist?

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by adinobro on Thursday November 10, 2016 @01:33AM (#12918196)
That is almost exactly how it works in Australia.

You can either rank the vote manually or vote for a party and they get to pick how the vote is ranked between all the candidates.

Re:Epic Games chief pays $15M to protect 7,000 acres of Nort... by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @07:52PM (#12916607)
Running simulations on voting systems is easy.

Also lots of countries have preferential voting systems. Lots of people in AU don't vote for the major parties.

The US system is just crazy.