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Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @10:49PM (#12905913)
Then you'll see the economic fallout, and then it's just four years of misery, and people who can afford to, getting the hell out.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by morgante on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @10:52PM (#12905923)
Where is there to "get out" to though? Economically the US has been outperforming the rest of the world recently.

I'm especially worried because the developer job market is a lot worse outside the US than inside it. I genuinely don't know where to go (recession seems inevitable).

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by tedmiston on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @10:58PM (#12905940)
Canada, Australia, New Zealand...
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by danthejam on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:03PM (#12905958)
Can't people just decide to create a new SV somewhere and do it? It's just people you need to move.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by flukus on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:10PM (#12905982)
Why make a new one and not secede?
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by Inconel on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:18PM (#12906008)
I'm not particularly well informed on the actual logistics of mounting a secession from the rest of the US, although at the very least I would imagine securing water rights would itself be a significant challenge for SV, but I very much doubt the "disruptors" in SV have the wherewithal to stomach such an endeavor.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by flukus on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:01AM (#12906570)
I'm not super familiar with the geography there but I'd imagine everything west of the rockies (is that the right mountain range) would go with California and I thought that this was the source of the water.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by Inconel on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:27AM (#12906717)
I believe a large part of Northern California's, and by extension Silicon Valley's, water comes from the Sierras. The communities of the Sierras, as well as those of the Central Valley which separates Northern and Southern California, tend to be fairly conservative. They also have high rates of firearms ownership. I don't think they would be too keen to join in on a hypothetical SV secession.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:48AM (#12906829)
It would be a very short, very ugly civil war essentially.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by Inconel on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:58AM (#12906883)
I agree it would be ugly, I'm not so sure it would be short though.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by myhf on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:46AM (#12906822)
Svexit
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:04PM (#12905959)
I'm quite partial to Ireland myself, but then, I'm not a developer. Canada also seems lovely this time of year.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by ythl on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:01PM (#12905953)
Come on, at least give the guy a chance before bashing the future economy.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:04PM (#12905963)
Watches markets around the world tumble

Yeeeaaaaah...

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by flukus on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:11PM (#12905986)
Just as they always do when something unexpected happens.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by matwood on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:04AM (#12906221)
Markets hate the unexpected. I'm viewing this huge down as a buy opportunity.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:36AM (#12906397)
Yeah, have fun with that. I don't think putting money in the markets right now is a great move unless you can afford to lose it all. Granted, that's always the case to some extent.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by matwood on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:32AM (#12906736)
All? C'mon, the markets are not going to zero. If they did, money would become worthless anyway.

Trump is likely going to be very business friendly, and after the initial shock wears off the markets will recover and move on.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:50AM (#12906835)
We were already looking rough before Trump, the UK has Brexit, the EU is struggling, China is... who the hell knows. I think we could be in for some historically bad times, and all of this while the Middle East and Northern Africa are burning.

If not for nuclear detente, I'd be pretty concerned about WWIII right about now.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by ythl on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @04:57PM (#12915101)
Watches markets around the world recover within hours

Yeeeaaaaah...

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by MichaelBurge on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @10:53PM (#12905925)
Canada's immigration site is down due to volume.

It won't happen, but it'd be hilarious if the Democrats planned to rig future elections by importing millions of immigrants to vote for them, and they instead end up emigrating by the millions to Canada thus swinging it in the opposite direction.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by flukus on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:53PM (#12906149)
I imagine it wasn't built to handle high volumes in the first place.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:07PM (#12905968)
At this point I'd almost welcome a truly rigged system, or even a secret service member who doesn't mind a lifetime in prison. Eight years of W. Bush was bad, and frankly I doubt the economy could withstand whatever Trump has in "mind".
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by Inconel on Tuesday November 08, 2016 @11:29PM (#12906050)
As someone who very much dislikes the prospect of a Trump presidency, and is in fact well to the left of the Democratic party and Hillary Clinton on most social and economic issues, I find this line of thinking quite troubling.

Perhaps rather than hoping for assassinations or voter fraud, those of us who identify as "progressive" could instead channel that mental energy into finding ways to better appeal to large groups of working class people who are imo justifiably angry at the state of things in this country.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:25AM (#12906319)
You know what? People as a group are just too stupid and easily manipulated to be helped, and given that Trump now gets to pick (probably) 3 SCOTUS seats? We're cooked.

Basically, for most of us here, the rest of our lives will have this election hanging over us, for the implications on the SCOTUS alone. As I said, people who can afford it are going to leave in droves.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by throwanem on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @12:38AM (#12906404)
> People as a group are just too stupid and easily manipulated to be helped

Do you want President Trump? Because this is how you get President Trump.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:23AM (#12906689)
No, Evangelicals and uneducated whites are how we get President Trump, along with a majority of people who don't even vote, and a minority who "vote their conscience" with a fool like Johnson despite the lessons of 2000.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by inimino on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:40AM (#12906780)
You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this.
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @01:52AM (#12906847)
Care to explain why exactly?
Re:Live Presidential Forecast by inimino on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:02AM (#12906913)
Do I really need to?

If you think that your "I'd almost welcome" weasel wording makes what you're implying acceptable, you need to reconsider the responsibilities of citizenship in a democracy.

Re:Live Presidential Forecast by M_Grey on Wednesday November 09, 2016 @02:09AM (#12906959)
Show me a democracy and I'll consider it.