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Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by LeanderK on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:01PM (#12841346)
>Hotz's initial tweets suggested his move was in response to an inquiry from NHTSA, stating that he "would much rather spend life building amazing tech than dealing with regulators and lawyers,"

well, this is not some stupid web-app that can't harm anyone even if it tried (except from maybe overheating your smartphone). This can kill people, i can't seriously buy dangerous stuff from somebody that says something like this. What's next? Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations? Disrupting the medicine-industry by testing your headache-pills on your customers (those regulations are only slowing us down!)?

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by donmatito on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:10PM (#12841413)
You would have won so much Irony Points if only you had written "Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations? Disrupting the medicine industry with revolutionary tests without sufficient scientific validation?"
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by bertil on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:33PM (#12841568)
> Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations?

Sounds like Menu Next Door, who had to deal with regulation meant for restaurants when trying to be the AirBnB of food. Things like you had to have a warning about washing your hands in your own private kitchen.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by TylerE on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:56PM (#12841706)
It's a reference to Soylent.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by llukas on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:15PM (#12841449)
Let me introduce to you: Theranos
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by ethbro on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @06:45AM (#12844582)
We all got that. ;)
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by psychometry on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:15PM (#12841452)
>What's next? Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations?

Boy do I have the product for you! Question: Do you like the color beige?

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by WalterSear on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:20PM (#12841486)
I prefer the old school green, in the original formulation.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by ethbro on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @06:49AM (#12844597)
Random historical reference on green: "anti-establish mint" has to be the best car color ever ('69-71, Ford).

http://blog.macsautoparts.com/wild-paint-colors/

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by M_Grey on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:21PM (#12841494)
> What's next? Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations?

So... Soylent?

>Disrupting the medicine-industry...

So... Theranos?

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by krschultz on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:31PM (#12841555)
Only this would be worse. Someone can choose to buy Soylent or use Theranos for themselves and no one else gets hurt. If you a person buys a crappy self driving car system it could kill me, a totally unrelated person.

I don't care how much of a libertarian you are, that's exactly the reason why we have regulations.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by wolfgke on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:35PM (#12841583)
> I don't care how much of a libertarian you are

Also ask how risk-averse/-taking the other side is.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by M_Grey on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:56PM (#12841704)
I agree with you, I'm just pointing out that we're already in the age of profitable, harmful bullshit.

As for me, I'm not one of those deluded fools who believes in the law of jungle, and that I wouldn't be dog food in that jungle.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by hash-set on Monday October 31, 2016 @09:11PM (#12842559)
The law of the jungle is fine, but it won't preclude a shitty self-driving car from crashing through your living room and killing one of your kids. It's one thing to suffer harm to yourself, it is quite another to go through losing a child to something like that. I know, randomness, blah blah blah.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by bertil on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:36PM (#12841590)
Technically, Soylent abides by regulations: they sell flaxseed mixed with peas and oat (I think: I’m in Europe and eat Huel, which has mostly those). None of those are not well-known food sources. There are no regulation about claiming that eating nothing but that is safe; they should (at least, Huel does) have the recommended daily doses of each major molecule on the bag.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by M_Grey on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:56PM (#12841709)
I'm thinking more about their recent recalls and stoppage.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by djrogers on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:59PM (#12841723)
There's no indication that those were related to not following existing food production regulations...
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by M_Grey on Monday October 31, 2016 @07:02PM (#12841742)
There's no indication, period, but it would be one of the safer assumptions.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by givinguflac on Monday October 31, 2016 @07:31PM (#12841927)
No, it's just a wrong assumption. They're still selling the pre-made liquid, they just stopped their bars and powder products proactively, even though they couldn't reproduce the issue in testing. Do you even know anything about their production methods?
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by clhodapp on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @12:08AM (#12843348)
> Do you even know anything about their production methods?

Hence the purpose of regulations...

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by Aloha on Monday October 31, 2016 @08:28PM (#12842332)
Food Allergy seems to be a much more likely cause to me.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by snickerbockers on Monday October 31, 2016 @07:49PM (#12842034)
> Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations? Disrupting the medicine-industry by testing your headache-pills on your customers (those regulations are only slowing us down!)?

It would have been even worse than that because it could have potentially killed other people, too.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by prawn on Monday October 31, 2016 @08:32PM (#12842355)
Even ignoring the safety aspect, people buying any remotely major product will have the expectation that it will ideally be supported for some time to come. e.g., buy a car and have the manufacturer around for long enough to help out with servicing, parts, etc.
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by hash-set on Monday October 31, 2016 @09:12PM (#12842562)
Saturn, Saab...
Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by Kadin on Monday October 31, 2016 @10:40PM (#12842950)
http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/

(ACDelco is a house brand of GM, similar to Chrysler's Mopar or Ford's Motorcraft.)

The auto companies are an interesting example, because all of the major manufacturers have subsidiary organizations which exist just for parts manufacture, and all of them handle parts manufacturing and distribution for far longer than the original manufacturing run. While GM might only make a particular model car for a few years, ACDelco might continue to make consumable parts for it for decades, based on demand.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by cm2187 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @04:35AM (#12844177)
> stupid web-app that can't harm anyone even if it tried (except from maybe overheating your smartphone)

It can leak very sensitive personal data. That won't hurt you physically but will surely have consequences. The problem is perhaps the lack of regulations in the web-app domain. Any amateur can call himself a programmer and many do.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by AsyncAwait on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @07:14AM (#12844688)
> The problem is perhaps the lack of regulations in the web-app domain.

There are and perhaps should be more regulations about safeguarding personal information, which for websites would mean salting passwords etc., but I am glad there are no regulations regarding who can and cannot program as that would seriously hurt innovation.

Maybe Linus wouldn't be able to program Linux? or Zuckerberg Facebook?

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by cm2187 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @09:40AM (#12845595)
The current pace of large data leaks is alarming and unsustainable. Any other industry that would fail so badly would be completely taken over by regulations. The silicon valley is only keeping its independence because until now politicians didn't really grasp the scope of the problem. But now that data leaks involve their own email, I suspect Washington is going to start paying attention.

Yes, regulations do hurt innovation and also competition, it creates large barriers to entry (check how many new banking licenses are issued every years!). But the current state of infosec is just unacceptable. It's like if planes were falling from the sky every day.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by walrus01 on Monday October 31, 2016 @08:13PM (#12842210)
> Producing food without following proper hygiene regulations?

Soylent, disrupting my rectum since mid 2016.

Re:The Cancelled Comma One Would Have Embarrassed the Car In... by seanp2k2 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @03:34PM (#12849335)
We've already seen what happens there with Soylent