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Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by jedberg on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:51AM (#12813181)
Think of something you have to do every day that you don't like to do. Like flossing maybe? Some people really enjoy flossing. Some people don't. If there were a device I could put in my mouth and in 30 seconds everything were flossed, I would totally do that. But some people would think, man how can you do that and take all the enjoyment out of flossing?

Sometimes when I'm working, I run to the fridge, grab whatever is in it and eat it while I keep working. It usually doesn't taste like anything because I don't even bother heating it.

Soylent lets me do that but it's a lot healthier than whatever leftovers I might grab out of the fridge.

Either way I'm not enjoying the food nor the company (I'm at my desk at home alone). I'm also only spending 10 minutes.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by couchand on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:01AM (#12813225)
"If there were a device I could put in my mouth and in 30 seconds everything were flossed"... I think what you're looking for is dental floss.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by CamperBob2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:37AM (#12813386)
Actually what you're looking for would be a waterflosser. The trick is not forcing yourself to use it, it's not getting addicted to it.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by akvadrako on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:11AM (#12813945)
When I've looked into waterflossers the evidence wasn't strong that they actually work. Then again, neither is it for flossing at all.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by CamperBob2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:37PM (#12820963)
It's one of those things you have to try for yourself, I think. The evidence in my case is very much apparent when I'm in the chair getting poked by my hygienist. The waterflosser is more effective at maintaining my gum health than floss ever was, with a p-value amounting to a floating-point denormal.

I have a feeling that if the truth were to come out, the effectiveness of flossing would turn out to be entirely dependent on tooth spacing or some other individual characteristic. If so, that may be true for the waterjet gadgets as well. But it seems less likely.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by AlexCoventry on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:10AM (#12813270)
If it takes you less than a minute to floss you're probably doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PreNWWOYfI#t=32s

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by Raphmedia on Friday October 28, 2016 @02:33PM (#12819260)
Some people's teeth are so messed up that flossing is a puzzle. "Right angle there, diagonal between those two teeth, curve a bit there, go backward there"...
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by teddyh on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:28AM (#12814298)
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by tempestn on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:23AM (#12813991)
With a little bit of practice you can easily do it as demonstrated there in under a minute.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by gohrt on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:18AM (#12813972)
Eh, flossing is a placebo anyway.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by tempestn on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:25AM (#12814004)
I can't attest to whether it helps prevent cavities or gum disease or whatever, given regular dental visits. I can say though that I used to rarely floss, and since I started flossing daily a few years ago, my teeth remain noticeably smoother and cleaner feeling between dentist visits, and require considerably less scraping when I'm there.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by rndstr on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:03AM (#12814182)
I don't know about you but I can tell how important flossing is by the amount of blood that comes out of my mouth the longer I take a break from flossing
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by debaserab2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:34AM (#12813362)
> Some people really enjoy flossing.

Who does exactly?

Food, to me, represents more than replenishment of nutrition. It represents meeting and understanding my coworkers. Learning more about my significant other or unwinding with this person to talk about our week. Even when it's not a social situation, for me it's a treat. I completed some work and now I should treat myself by revitalizing my body with a substance that tastes good. It's a great motivator.

It's such a fundamental part of being a human being I can't at all relate to seeing it as a mechanical process such as flossing. I can't think of a worse comparison: when you're flossing, you're alone, and if anything anti social. Eating couldn't be any more be the opposite. It's something that all humans can relate to and bond over no matter what your opinions are.

Flossing isn't a part of our culture. Food is a part of every culture.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by vidarh on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:03AM (#12813900)
That we can all relate to it and bond over it doesn't mean that all of us want to. If I feel like being social, fine. But most of the time I don't feel like being social. Often that's the case even when I want to relax and enjoy food - I'd say maybe 3/4 of the time I go to restaurants I go alone by choice.

But just like I can, and occasionally do, enjoy social interactions but usually prefer solitude, while I can, and do often, greatly enjoy food there are still plenty of time when hunger is just an annoying disruption.

All of the stuff that you have built up around food can exist just fine separate from it. You connecting socialising and bonding with food is just habit. That's fine, but it isn't universal.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by squeaky-clean on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:49AM (#12817265)
> Eating couldn't be any more be the opposite. It's something that all humans can relate to and bond over no matter what your opinions are.

I generally don't like food. Sometimes I crave something specific, or want to eat at a nice place. But 6 out of 7 days out of the week, food just isn't appealing to me, and is a chore to eat. It's basically like flossing.

Ever since a time when I was a teen and had to fast because of an esophagus problem, I haven't really felt hunger the same way. It's possible for me to go a few days without eating and not notice it or feel hungry. I can tell when I'm very hungry because I get lightheaded and weak around day 3. (Note, I don't do this intentionally and it isn't often I go days without eating).

So Soylent (or equivalent) is really helpful in making sure I get some food everyday.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by DanBC on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:52AM (#12817301)
> It's such a fundamental part of being a human being I can't at all relate to seeing it as a mechanical process such as flossing

I mean, I agree with you and everything but you're saying "this thing is so important to me I cannot understand other people". There are a reasonably large number of people who would be very happy if they only ever ate a bowl of cereal and a banana for breakfast every single day for the rest of their life. I don't understand it, and I wouldn't like it, but I don't want to prevent them the comfort they get from that.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by grzm on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:35AM (#12813375)
>> Some people really enjoy flossing.

> Who does exactly?

I do! Admittedly anecdotal. I am not afraid to confess that I enjoy flossing.

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by phito on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:06AM (#12813915)
It might be very important for your, but not for me. People have different taste.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by untog on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:32AM (#12813351)
That's exactly the alien part, I think. Equating eating to flossing is utterly alien to me. Every meal is a positive thing.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by nnq on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:50AM (#12813426)
From people on the other side: sometimes I'm like "ugh, even drinking smth seems too much distraction, don't wanna loose this focus now, an IV-cathether port that could just pump the right stuff into my veins, triggered automatically by sensors knowing my dietary intake history and pooling blood concentrations of things from me, would be so awesome now" :)

Also, deciding what to eat is a huge chore and mental energy drain for me... especially since I like constant diversity and novelty even in food. If I could afford to have a personal chef that would be trained to "always surprise me" and occasionally I could just tell him smth like "uhm, that salad looks delicious, but I'm too lazy to eat it, grind it up into a shake please so I can slurp it on my way to place X or while coding" it would rock!

Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by summarite on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:56AM (#12813459)
You like diverse food but then resort to Soylent to avoid choosing food? I suppose it's healthier than McD but it really sounds a bit crazy.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by TheGRS on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:36AM (#12813379)
Though I'd argue the healthier alternative would be to take a break and go walk to a nice restaurant somewhere, but alas I also fall into situations where you just need to keep on task.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by kodfodrasz on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:53AM (#12813439)
Usually keeping a break is better for both your health and your work
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by fernandotakai on Friday October 28, 2016 @03:37PM (#12819882)
yup. when went from working 14h/day (with almost no breaks) to working 7~8h (with breaks to eat, drink water, walk around), my productivity increased a lot.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by briandear on Friday October 28, 2016 @03:07AM (#12813703)
Is it healthier? Apparently it's making people sick.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by jdietrich on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:35AM (#12813377)
Is it really so difficult to make a sandwich?
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by nurettin on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:53AM (#12813443)
It is very easy to make a sandwich once you have a fridge which fills itself with fresh ingredients whenever you run out.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by tempestn on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:31AM (#12814028)
Also your sandwich is predominantly going to be made up of bread, even the healthiest of which isn't all that healthy, and likely deli meat, which you probably don't want to much of either.
Re:Soylent halts sales of its powder as customers keep getti... by eth0up on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:33AM (#12817040)
Not with sudo.