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Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by tonyedgecombe on Monday October 17, 2016 @10:30AM (#12725305)
"Stocks and bonds are more expensive than ever."

Which is what you would expect most of the time in a growing economy.

Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by jazzyk on Monday October 17, 2016 @10:58AM (#12725540)
Growing economy?

The growth rate in the past several years in the developed world has been the lowest in any economic expansion. In the US, around 1.5% lately and is only positive because the inflation rate calculated by the government (by which it is adjusted) is significantly under-estimated.

Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by tonyedgecombe on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:20PM (#12727698)
I wasn't making a political statement.
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by ericd on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:46PM (#12730861)
I don't think his was a political statement either, just that your implication that it's the result of growth doesn't seem accurate.
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by ArkyBeagle on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @05:05AM (#12732997)
CPI is often ( generally? ) considered to overstate inflation.
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by kgwgk on Monday October 17, 2016 @11:01AM (#12725570)
"More expensive than ever" doesn't mean that the price is higher than ever. The S&P 500 was higher in 2012 than in 2004 but it was less expensive.
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by silentsea90 on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:17PM (#12729255)
Can you please expand on that? Do you mean inflated adjusted price?
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by cesarbs on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:35PM (#12729463)
P/E ratio, or, more likely, CAPE. P/E stands for "price to earnings" - it essentially tells you how much you're paying in a share of stock for each dollar in future earnings.

P/E is calculated at a point in time - current price over last reported earnings. The CAPE (Cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings) ratio is a better measure because it's calculated based on the last 10-years earnings. It's somewhat predictive of future stock market returns (10 to 17 years out), albeit with wide variation.

Right now the American stock market is very expensive. Take a look at http://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe/. Many international markets are not, though: http://www.starcapital.de/research/stockmarketvaluation. Current American market valuations have most people expecting very little real (inflation-adjusted) returns from the stock market over the next 10 years.

Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by jasonmclaren on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:35PM (#12729467)
More expensive relative to some measure of underlying value like earnings or book value. If you look at the P/E ratio (price-to-earnings) of a stock, a higher ratio means you're paying more to buy enough stock to get $1 of earnings, which in a sense means that the stock is more expensive.
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by kcanini on Monday October 17, 2016 @05:00PM (#12729708)
"Expensive" when referring to stocks typically means some flavor of price/earnings ratio, such as http://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe/
Re:In Investing, It’s When You Start and When You Finish (2011) by unknown_apostle on Monday October 17, 2016 @10:36AM (#12725366)
You're right. High valuation multiples imply high expectations about future profits. But those expectations will need to be met before you can look back and say you've done a good investment.