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Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by SEJeff on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:45PM (#12600184)
My experience in a single family home is the polar opposite. I always get a txt or polite call (always originating from Seattle, WA) asking if I want them to put the package somewhere in specific or leave it at the door. I've went and spoken with a few of them.

They're far and above better than Fedex / UPS and never throw the packages over my gate into my flowerbeds.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by jasonmp85 on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:27PM (#12600531)
So here's the thing. I don't want the carrier to call to ask how to deliver a package. I have never had a FedEX or UPS carrier do that, they just put it where all packages for my building are supposed to go.

I've had Amazon Logistics carriers: Be unable to find my door (it's a non-gated, outward facing door in a row-style townhome with street access). Leave things at an _entirely different_ residential complex, whose address matched neither my street name nor number. They've done this twice, and not even at the same wrong complex (the hint is it said "left at reception", and we don't have a reception area). Try to pressure me into letting them just leave something on the sidewalk outside a gated apartment ("would that be safe?").

I'm a Prime addict and I feel like my dealer just started cutting the supply. At least let Prime members opt-out of Amazon Logistics (hell, I'd pay extra in my annual fee to do so).

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by wlesieutre on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:31PM (#12600572)
This isn't unique to Amazon's couriers. I've had UPS leave a package "at loading dock" in a similar row-style townhome with street access. I still have no idea where that one ended up.

Not sure that I've ever had a package delivered by Amazon, but if I did there weren't any problems. That UPS incident is my only personal shipping issue in years.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by cgusto on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:22PM (#12601022)
I'm also a Prime addict, and have noticed vast improvements in the past year or so with Amazon Logistics (Bay Area).

Just like you mentioned, it was really bad at first. Packages would routinely arrive late, wrong address, etc. I live in a gated apartment complex and they would always leave the package with the leasing office instead of using the code I provided (UPS, FedEx, would always leave at my door).

Now it is indistinguishable from other carriers, in that all my packages arrive on time, at my door, without any problems.

The only thing I don't like is PrimeNow, which uses 'part time' carriers like Postmates, and they ALWAYS get confused by my apartment complex - so I stopped using it.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by nostrebored on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @06:12PM (#12601763)
PrimeNow in Seattle leverages Amazon logistics -- and it's actually very nice. I've never had a problem with PrimeNow here :)

UberEats on the other hand can never find my house as their routing sends them down an alley that has no street numbers.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by enraged_camel on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:17PM (#12600967)
>>So here's the thing. I don't want the carrier to call to ask how to deliver a package. I have never had a FedEX or UPS carrier do that, they just put it where all packages for my building are supposed to go.

I wish I could say the same. I get calls from UPS delivery guys/gals about 30% of the time because I live in a duplex and my unit faces the alley. So they come in through the main street, can't find "Unit B" and end up calling me. I have to explain to them that they have to enter through the gate on the side.

This one time they left the package in front of the mailboxes, out in the open. When I got home, the entire box was soaking wet from the rain. Gross.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by enraged_camel on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @09:25PM (#12602690)
I've gotten a lot of downvotes for this and I'm not sure why. Am I saying something controversial?
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by SEJeff on Thursday September 29, 2016 @01:57PM (#12607353)
People being weird I guess. You just got 2 upvotes from me.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by tedunangst on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:01PM (#12600304)
Heh, everyone's experience is different. Until recently Amazon used UPS for everything and I never had a problem. They deliver the packages to the business next door. Just like it says on the sign by the front door.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by pbreit on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:23PM (#12600505)
And since Amazon is incredibly customer-focused, I have an easier time believing the positive anecdotes.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by majormajor on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:26PM (#12600526)
It's still a pretty hard problem to solve, though. My experience is that it's taken Amazon about 3 years to figure out how to do their own deliveries in LA.

The first ones were terrible. They seemed to have no good fallback if the building's gate was locked and nobody was available to buzz them in, and stuff just got lost. They were customer focused, yes, but that just meant they shipped me free replacement stuff with free overnight non-Amazon shipping. Not the best experience overall, though, compared to getting it on the original date.

Fast forward to 2016 and they're pretty good here. Though USPS has been best for my building (and elsewhere people here are talking about USPS being the worst - again, it's a hard problem to solve for every area for everyone).

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by untog on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:26PM (#12600522)
Why do you assume people are lying, just because other people have different experiences than them? It is possible for both to be true. You sound like a marketers dream.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by ascagnel_ on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:38PM (#12600618)
I've had nothing but problems with them:

* Package marked as delivered on Saturday. Package actually delivered on Sunday.

* Package not delivered because there was no safe place to leave it (there's a sign next to the front door with instructions do leave it in the complex's leasing office across the street).

* Package delivered to my door, despite my door being behind multiple card-access doors.

* Package left at the door to the leasing office, even though the leasing office was open and the lights were on.

These have all happened in the past three months. I'm borderline ready to cancel Prime.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by huac on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:43PM (#12600667)
Each of these will get you an extra month of Prime if you complain to Amazon.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by untog on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:47PM (#12601243)
Great, except what if I ordered something for a specific date because, you know, I needed it for that specific date? An extra month of Prime isn't going to help me there.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by nostrebored on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @06:14PM (#12601777)
Then enjoy the fact that literally no mailing provider actually guarantees delivery date.

At least Amazon is more than willing to work with you to figure out how they can make your experience more palatable.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by Symbiote on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @06:26PM (#12601846)
Royal Mail offer a guaranteed next day delivery service [1]

UPS in the USA do [2]

[1] http://www.royalmail.com/personal/uk-delivery/special-delive...

[2] https://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/next...

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by nostrebored on Thursday September 29, 2016 @11:13AM (#12605894)
"The guarantee does not apply when late delivery results ... from events beyond our control ... or the exercise of any lien in accordance with our Terms and Conditions of Carriage."

If you can void your guarantee based on "forces outside your control" in something like shipping, where you're at the mercy of traffic, weather conditions, and human error, it's not really a guarantee.

The UK is a substantially easier country to ship in logistically than the US. I don't doubt that Royal Mail's guaranteed delivery works.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by ascagnel_ on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:20PM (#12600997)
Much like a cable company giving you a month of HBO when you complain, I fail to see how giving me more of an unreliable service will fix the broken elements of that service.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by a_lifters_life on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:59PM (#12601332)
I'm in the exact same boat my prime membership is due next month... May cancel
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by DashRattlesnake on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:14PM (#12600936)
Apparently that customer focus hasn't translated into competence in running a residential package delivery service.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by douche on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:38PM (#12600620)
At least they tend to go good for it when they screw up, without much pushback, in my experience.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by BlackjackCF on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:15PM (#12600947)
I've only had positive experiences. I accidentally screwed up the numbers for the address for a package. UPS and USPS showed up at the address and just returned the package. The Amazon Courier called me to check to see what the real address was.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by dannyr on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:50PM (#12600225)
Same here. Amazon has been great.

They also deliver on Sundays and they call me since my apartment building's package room is closed on Sundays.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by tigarcia on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:52PM (#12600239)
I agree completely. I usually have the most problems with packages delivered through the US Postal Service and I haven't had any problems to speak of with Amazon delivery.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by tracker1 on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:12PM (#12600399)
When I lived outside a major metro area for a couple years (Prescott Valley, AZ for reference), the USPS was horrible there, packages sitting on the mailbox in the rain, delivered literally blocks/streets off of both the address by number and street name... There were a dozen or so times a year we'd get someone else's packages. Actually getting packages from USPS was under 50%. I started having stuff delivered to work, as it was more reliable. And I panicked when I read about USPS doing last mile delivery for other carriers.

I haven't had that near as much in town, but USPS is my absolute last choice in the space.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by lutorm on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:17PM (#12600458)
Here in Hawaii, USPS has been at least as good as any of the other companies, while charging a fraction of the cost. We're talking 1/4 the cost or less, and delivery from most places on the mainland in usually 3 days, maybe 4.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by tracker1 on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:41PM (#12601194)
It will vary greatly by area... I haven't had any issues in the Phoenix area... There are still a lot of neighborhoods in Phoenix that still have their mailboxes at the house, not the curb. Though I have friends farther out in newer neighborhoods that have less than great experiences.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by jaynos on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:52PM (#12601281)
USPS is the only carrier that has claimed to deliver a package on the correct day, then actually deliver the next day.--My 2 cent anecdote.
Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by matwood on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:50PM (#12601260)
This completely. If I order from Amazon and it shows them handing it to USPS, I email/call right away because odds are I will not get the package.

I complained to the postmaster multiple times. Although, as a typical gov. employee, he just laughed and said we do what we want, it is your neighborhoods problem. Eventually the whole neighborhood got together and made some changes happen. It is still not perfect, but better.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by monksy on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @03:08PM (#12600362)
I didn't order a package from Amazon, but it was shipped from the company to me via amazon. (I refuse to buy from Aamzon) The amazon delievery person ended up putting on the slip "in the flower bed." I've had other horror stories about delivery people being clueless about leaving it, and/or where to leave it.

I've had a lot less issues with UPS than I've had with the Amazon delievery service.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by Grishnakh on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @05:08PM (#12601384)
>I didn't order a package from Amazon, but it was shipped from the company to me via amazon.

Are you sure about that?

It sounds like you bought from an arbitrager: someone who's just a middleman, posts something for sale which they don't even have, but at a higher price than some retailer that does. Then, when you buy it, they go buy the thing (on Amazon in this case), use your address as the delivery address, and then pocket the difference. It's extremely common on Ebay and Amazon both, and many other places.

Re:Amazon’s Ambition to Compete Directly with UPS and FedEx by monksy on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @07:50PM (#12602277)
It was the company who made the item.